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Originally Posted by cdoublejj View Post
i'm sure it's fake, as usual
It is clearly a genuine AMD presentation.

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Originally Posted by Fr0sty View Post
so how can hyperpi be faster on amd's system especially with a lower clock speed .. and architecture that isnt up to par from what we know
As pointed out early in the thread it isn't faster, it's just that the GPU on the i7 can't keep up so the CPU is trying to help it. The GPU on the AMD chip can keep up so it allows all the CPU resources to be used towards HyperPi.

The i7 would more than likely beat Llano even if they were both at the same frequency, if they do a non graphical benchmark.
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Again, who uses integrated graphics anyways.... Have fun maxing Crysis 2 on that AMD unit.
who uses intergrated graphics anyways? lets see people who use LAPTOPS, which is what that CPU was on.
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Again, who uses integrated graphics anyways.... Have fun maxing Crysis 2 on that AMD unit.

P67 boards don't even support int. graphics.
You do know this is in the mobile platform right?
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post #124 of 251
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Originally Posted by xd_1771 View Post
Sometime in June-July
But seriously unless my eyes are deceiving me this is Llano trouncing Sandy Bridge in even CPU performance. Wait till Bulldozer, that is going to win so much Charlie Sheen is going to have to create a new type of winning called "tri-winning"
I'd wait for a reputed site to benchmark them first before asking Mr Sheen to go any more insane.

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Originally Posted by zrlan7710 View Post
Perhaps Llano can even compete with SMB-EX and Ivy.
If it competes with Sandy Bridge, then it should compete with the quad core SB-EX and Ivy Bridge's...They won't be that much if at all faster per clock.

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Originally Posted by PanicProne View Post
Nice try, but this is only really showcasing the APU (CPU+GPU) on applications that support it.

We all know that Intel Graphics suck. What else is new?

If you really think that a Llano CPU can beat an i7 2600, feel free to dwell in ignorance.
Except AMDs plan is (I think) to remove the FP part of the CPU and offload it onto an integrated GPU whether you have a dedicated GPU or not, if they manage to get this working for Llano then drivers won't matter much if at all for it.

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Originally Posted by SlaveOnDope View Post
Its showing how well the cpu/apu will work in a broad spectrum of multitasking users.
Its different than if I disable 30+ running task to run superpi to get the better score this is showing what one can do with multiply applications running and smoothly.

One of my big issues is folding/crunching on Intel with discrete gpu's (only cpu crunching) and still not being able to play avi, mkv, mpeg4 video without lag and dropped frames. 1090t does just fine however why? I have no idea.
I'm fairly sure AMDs drivers are far ahead of Intels.

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Originally Posted by JCPUser View Post
This. Llano must be offloading some of the FP calculations onto it's GPU whereas Sandy Bridge can't do this. What this tells me is that Llano has more total compute power than Sandy Bridge. However, as we all know, it does not have more CPU power.

Depending on how much Llano's GPU can help it's CPU in more realistic situations -- it could be an amazing little chip.
This, it depends all on how much of the FP instructions AMD can offload to the GPU, and if any Intel fanboys say its not fair, then Intel is doing the same idea with Quick Sync, just sayin'...Both companies are going to do this eventually, I think AMD is just a bit ahead with it.

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Originally Posted by PsikyoJebus View Post
As much as I want to believe this. I find it hard to accept that a chip as powerful as sandy bridge would be trounced by a next gen notebook chip like this. I'll wait for some more benchies (especially gaming ones) before I'll believe anything.
Assuming it is real, then it's because the AMD chip is offloading a lot of work to the FPU, even if the Intel chip did that it'd get trounced by the AMD one anyway.

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Originally Posted by born2bwild View Post
I agree.

Phenom II is largely inferior to Sandy Bridge. Especially with such a large clock difference, the Phenom should not even compare to the Sandy Bridge.

This simply demonstrates the better GPU capabilities of the Llano APU.
And possibly Llanos ability to automatically send some instructions to the GPU part of the APU, which is AMDs entire reason for using an APU iirc.

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Originally Posted by Fr0sty View Post
but how can it be ahead in the hyperpi test ....


maybe the test are looped or schedule to go staight after each one is done .. and the sequence of gpu happy programs right before hyperpi made it appear that its faster or theres really something we dont know about the tweaks done to Llano ....
AMD will probably have increased the IPC a tiny bit, but the CPU was probably way less loaded and had more resources for HyperPi thanks to the GPU taking most of the load.
    
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_H9PU...&feature=share

I found one more interesting Llano video .This one runs starcraft, 1080P video, facail regonation and HTML5 test. This looks awesome.

Can some one move this video also to front page
looks quite impressive
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I want this, in a 13" ultraportable that gets 8-10 hours of battery life at a price point of $600

get on it Asus!
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EPIC WIN.
bulldozer/llano is to sandy bridge as K8 is to netburst!
OMG... 8800GT POWER ON DIE WITH A BEASTLY CPU!!!!!! OMIGAWD!
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Even though I work for Intel, I just might have to buy this.

damn...
well, glad to see you have joined the dark side! we have sexy capes!
    
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Again, who uses integrated graphics anyways.... Have fun maxing Crysis 2 on that AMD unit.

P67 boards don't even support int. graphics.
um this is crysis 2 ur talking about...
minimum spec is 8800GT. 5670=8800GT.
so yeah. we should be able to run crysis 2 well on high or very high.
crysis 1 is a different story, lol.
    
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Good on ya, AMD. Keep Intel pure.
    
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um this is crysis 2 ur talking about...
minimum spec is 8800GT. 5670=8800GT.
so yeah. we should be able to run crysis 2 well on high or very high.
crysis 1 is a different story, lol.
It can play it on high, maybe even very high on a low resolution.
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