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post #41 of 251
This is either fake or it's using the GPU.

Sorry, but even in my wildest dreams I can't believe that AMD has tripled their performance in a year.
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Originally Posted by Fr0sty View Post
so how can hyperpi be faster on amd's system especially with a lower clock speed .. and architecture that isnt up to par from what we know
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Originally Posted by Kand View Post
I have an idea what's going on with Hyper Pi results.

Now since the Llano has an APU, and a much much better graphics chip, it's offloading the video processing to the APU, which Sandy Bridge cannot do with its HD3000. That, or AMD disabled GPU rendering for the Sandy Bridge test, never know. And there's that ripple test on there. I dont know what that is, but it looks GPU intensive.

So that Hyper Pi test on the Sandy Bridge, is in fact a result of a shared/stressed processor. Now if someone dropped their own HyperPi test, or similar with a discrete graphics card, off their Sandy Bridge processor, we can compare!
Read the entire thread. =P
post #43 of 251
i dont get the hype, its a bluray movie not a gaming experience. nothing here to prove its better thant he sandybridge in my book, at least not until they show some gaming benchmarks.
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I agree.

Phenom II is largely inferior to Sandy Bridge. Especially with such a large clock difference, the Phenom should not even compare to the Sandy Bridge.

This simply demonstrates the better GPU capabilities of the Llano APU.

but how can it be ahead in the hyperpi test ....


maybe the test are looped or schedule to go staight after each one is done .. and the sequence of gpu happy programs right before hyperpi made it appear that its faster or theres really something we dont know about the tweaks done to Llano ....
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Note: When AMD has something they really think can truly beat intel, they show it off and they show it off early. Remember the 6.5ghz Phenom II x4 on liquid helium. It beat most of the extreme benches at the time and they were showing it off like crazy.

If they really had something to show, we would have seen it, it would have been in vegas, and I'm sure there would have been techno music playing.
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post #46 of 251
It is interesting to say the least and although I am not a fanboy of either company I will give AMD the benefit of the doubt until I see some actual (Reliable) results/benches.

I would not rule AMD out as we know essentially very little as of right now. Who knows maybe it will beat Sandy Bridge like this and maybe it won't. No point in claiming things you can't prove.
Just my 2 cents!
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I think a lot of ppl forget that Phenom II X6 is based on a what 3 or 4 yr old architecture which wasn't great but good for its time. Now take that same architecture shrink it down and remove two of the cores and throw a gpu on it and your bound to have some extra space. I for one haven't seen if it really is a cut and paste job done to add the gpu or did they go to drawing board and redesign a few things to make more efficient.
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post #48 of 251
Quote:
Originally Posted by zrlan7710 View Post
Perhaps Llano can even compete with SMB-EX and Ivy.
You'd have to be silly to think that a die-shrunk, half-clocked Phenom II will compete with Sandy Bridge in pure CPU performance, let alone Ivy or SB-EX.

Oh, and how is this news? When is "youtube" a source?
Edited by pursuinginsanity - 4/26/11 at 6:12am
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Same old same old, no one should be believing the benchmarking the marketing department is putting out.
    
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xd_1771 View Post
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YfRh1FBkI4
Notice that one of the apps running in the video is HyperPi, a very CPU-intensive app... and AMD APPEARS TO BE AHEAD by some 1m digits. If I am seeing this right and am not in any way being fooled, AMD's Llano, which is only tweaked Phenom II architecture, is beating Intel Sandy Bridge with nearly half the clockspeed and half the thread count. And in an app that AMD normally loses in.
That's right, the Phenom II architecture scaled down to 32nm (with no L3 cache) at half the speed of Intel's newest SB architecture, and with half the amount of threads as well, is WINNING

The GPU of course wins, it's 5670-class power vs 5450-class power as previously known

If this is good, wait till Bulldozer, that's going to win even more
Looks like SB is running 8 instances of pi which is going to seriously dent performance as opposed to the 4 threads on Llano. Unfair testing.
Edited by el gappo - 4/26/11 at 6:15am
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