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Cool n quiet is indeed turned on? Shall i perform any adjustments in my bios?
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Your cpu isn't causing this problem I don't think.

Here is a thread with 460s in SLI with a similar issue that you're experiencing.

http://www.overclock.net/nvidia/9880...clocks-my.html

I haven't read through it yet, but I will give me a minute.
    
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OP you're gonna have to make a thread in the nvidia section for this I think.

Your issue is unique to me and I simply do not have enough experience in this matter to give you any sound advice.


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First off, it's entirely possible to be playing a game and not be CPU bottlenecked 99% of the time, but have a BN that kicks in 1% of the time, when some particular thing happens in the game that's esp. CPU-intensive. If it's severe enough, it could cause your gpu usage to fall low enough that the card drops to low-power 3d during these occasions.

But again, as I've said since the beginning ... I'm not telling you that a CPU BN is 'the problem', all I'm trying to explain is why you repeatedly got people telling you 'cpu bottleneck' in the beginning of the thread. Your cpu *is* underpowered for that card for one thing, and for another, the symptoms described wherein your card keeps downclocking to low-power 3d mode ... that is *EXACTLY* what happens with a severe CPU bottleneck, in the generic sense.

Granted, it's also possible to get the same effect by the game using up too much vram, or a buggy driver/game relationship (as seems to be the case with Killing Floor for you), but CPU BN is absolutely the first logical thing to suspect based on your early posts on this thread.

The fact that you're saying 'gpu usage shouldn't be a problem' indicates that you aren't actually monitoring it, correct? You should definitely be using AB on-screen display to do so while gaming. The card should NOT be downclocking unless the GPU usage is low. If it is downclocking even with loads over about 40%, then the card itself probably has a problem. Either that, or the XP drivers are so screwed up that they're totally useless, and therefore it's a sign that it's time to join the rest of the gaming world using Windows 7

You should also monitor vram usage in the same fashion (AB OSD), because you don't have a card w/such a plethora of vram that you don't need to worry about it.

BTW, 'driver forced effects' very often do not work, and can even cause problems with how games run/function. I've seen games where using 'enhance application settings' and forcing any level of AA would actually cause AA to be disabled in the game (although in-game AA alone worked perfect). 'Forced AA' doesn't work a hell of a lot more often than it does.

Point being, until you get this particular issue sorted out, I highly recommend using only in-game AA settings and the like. And you should monitor your GPU and vram usage, and all the other stats, in the AB OSD. As I think I've mentioned, this tool is INVALUABLE when it comes to troubleshooting GPU issues

Lastly, I'm just telling you what I read on the XP thing. I know that the card itself has a built-in mechanism to detect GPU load, and set the volts and clocks according to the load it has on it.

What I believe is 'the issue' w/XP is that they (meaning nV) cannot program the XP drivers to override the cards own built-in programming that does this 'downclocking on low GPU load' automatically. So that's why the option isn't there in NVCP.

No offense intended here, but I sorta doubt that you personally know enough about how the whole thing works to make the kind of proclamations on this subject that you're making but if it makes you feel better to envision yourself as the victim of some conspiracy, far be it from me to disabuse you of this notion. Fact is, I don't know enough about it to tell you that you're wrong ... alls I know is what I read
There are people like Brett over there that have a far deeper knowledege well than I have and it would be best if you went directly to the source.

Please go here: http://www.overclock.net/nvidia/

Create new thread, explain your problem, show that graph with your gpu downclocking to low power 3d mode state.

I don't think you are cpu bottlenecking, but I don't know the answer short of the suggestion to change the low power state 3d clocks on your card to factory clocks which would require bios editing and flashing. I can't recommend that without knowing if that is truly the solution.


You could also trying running driver sweeper again and trying the latest graphics driver 270.xx or an older one 25x.xx (both possibly).


Edit432523: Its either:

a) A cpu bottleneck. (don't kill me)

b) A driver related conflict with an old game.

Those are my thoughts.
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lol same title

I hope you can find a definitive answer and a solution, sorry I wasn't able to provide that. I just don't have any personal or otherwise experience with what I was seeing in MSI Afterburner.

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We'll have him play with Afterburner up when he comes back, should be interesting to see the usage if its required after the driver sweep... And no cpuNB is not going to increase his FPS drastically.
You would be suprised how much diffrence it makes in such old games. I donb't know why but it is a "bottleneck" on such games for a reason I don't know.

But yeah, that shouldn't be the problem really.
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What about other games ?
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To OP:

Your graphics card is running at 700 MHZ core. That's pretty low. There are gtx 460s that come around 850 MHZ which is WAY faster. Try overclocking your graphics card a little bit if you need better performance.

In my 3dMark 11 and 3dMark vantage scores I went up about 100 points even from 25 MHZ GPU overclock.
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Hes playing a 2004 game and most of you are insisting he overclocks to 4.0 or etc lol. I doubt that's even remotely close to his problem. When your playing does it actually use all six cores or how many if not all 6?
    
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Ya get your northbridge-cpu up to at least 2500-2600MHZ too.
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