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I should have asked around about this a long time ago.

How do people use bay resaviors now that pretty much every case you would really "want" to have has the PSU mounted in the bottom of the case? Then the CPU is up higher in the case and the res will not be the highest point in many of them. Some it will be very close, but will work.

Then you bring in all these top mounts for radiators like in my NZXT Tempest and Phantom. How can you use these mounts at all with out having an external res on a shelf higher than your PC?

For my Tempest I cut holes and mounted a double radiator on the bottom of the left side pannel and ignored the top mounts...it worked great. I was about to do this with my Phantom, but I thought I would ask around first.
Edited by Vagrant Storm - 4/26/11 at 6:37am
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Res above the pump I'd agree with for easy filling and less chance of it ever running dry, both my '07 and UFO had/have rads and blocks above the res's though and its not an issue. Water can't just run down from anywhere without air getting in to replace it.
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The only thing in the loop that the reservoir should be higher than is the pump. That way you insure that the pump never really runs dry. Other than that, I've always ran top mounted rads and cpu blocks that were higher than the res itself and never ran into any problems.
    
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Really? if even one air buble remains in the loop it will settle into the highest place. That means into your radiator. Unless you have some how managed to get all the air out...but that is impossible as far as I know. There is always going to be some space in the resaviour or fill tube. otherwise your pump will pull against a vacume like affect.
Edited by Vagrant Storm - 4/26/11 at 8:00am
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Really? if even one air buble remains in the loop it will settle into the highest place. That means into your radiator. Unless you have some how managed to get all the air out...but that is impossible as far as I know. There is always going to be some space in the resaviour.
Yeah...there will always be some air in the loop. It's not this huge deal you are making it out to be though and bay reservoirs aren't obsolete because of this. Don't really know what you are getting at with this thread.
    
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I guess I've just gotten to used to the sound of no air my loop...it makes an "air buble noise" that drives me nuts. One of the reasons I water cool is for quiter cooling unless I am gaming...than I have a head set on and turn the fan controller up.
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I guess I've just gotten to used to the sound of no air my loop...it makes an "air buble noise" that drives me nuts. One of the reasons I water cool is for quiter cooling unless I am gaming...than I have a head set on and turn the fan controller up.
Are you properly bleeding your loop for a long enough time? I've never head this "air bubble noise" you speak of after bleeding for 30 minutes or so. I've used bay reservoirs about twice as long as cylindrical reservoirs too.
    
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When you hear the sound of rushing water, keep bleeding.
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That's the thing...if the res is not always the highest point or at least equal. I won't bleed. I could run it for days and air will just follow the laws of physics and float up. I've gotten it down to where it sounds like my radiator has a case of indigestion off and on and the pump will let out a intermitient noise, but that is it. Is that as good as it can get? I guess it isn't too bad of a price to pay for an organized case. I just know that the air is also hurting perforance a little too, but not enough to likely matter.

I have tried bleeding it with the case tipped up on its back pannel making the rez the highest point and then adding as much coolant as I can once every drop of air is out of the loop. Once I set it down right it was all for nothing as the loop gets filled with air again. This is probably just something I need to just work at to perfect. I probably didn't do my self any good by talking the easy way out and use and external rez.
Edited by Vagrant Storm - 4/26/11 at 8:41am
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Have a T-line that's higher than everything else, that's how I always bled my systems.
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