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And, in typical Apple fashion, they even attempted to patent this.
"Location Histories for Location Aware Devices"

http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...DN/20110051665
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post #52 of 70
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I don't understand your point as you put it.

Are you implying that the desire for more transparency from companies is in some way idealized and moving AWAY from freedom?
Creating more and more laws dictating how companies conduct business affects the freedoms of the company. We have to have an equal balance of laws protecting businesses and consumers. We often lean one way or another which is often the case in the dynamic climate of technology and politics.

Has it gotten to the point that the way companies disclose information needs to be standardized. Or do we let companies create and implement their own policies. Are we truly protecting the consumers or are we just making up for their own lack of incompetence?
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Living in a country that has the most expensive Internet possible, where people can't even download the most recent Windows Service Pack without costly "overage fees" and threatening letters stating that service will be disconnected if the user persists in "abusing the terms of service"... I would entirely expect Apple to pay for any data they are shuffling out of any of my machines.

It's not just the Internet bandwidth either, but that their software is doing stuff that users do not want and do not need, that has nothing to do with the proper operation of the equipment, that uses valuable resources by stealing clock cycles or using up memory or storage. It is just wrong, and is nothing different from any other virus/trojan/rootkit/spybot malware tha has become endemic in the computer industry.

Really - this is entirely the reason why all software needs to be Open Source, at least so an independent agency can examine the code to ensure it is secure and not just some SpyBot kradware. We need something like UL or CSA, but for software, to give consumers some level of actual protection from the machinations of Corporate Americanism.

It can really be a battle, because just last week, I spent almost three hours trying to eradicate some corporate swill that was preinstalled on this machine. Really, the company that made that garbage should have to pay me an hourly rate for the whole effort...
post #54 of 70
I don't support the veiled way that Apple is acquiring location info on users, but to be fair, it is explained in their TOS. Just because it's not literally spelled out that there's a file on your phone and/or computer containing all of your location info does not make it illegal. Shady? Yes. But if you're so upset, don't continue to support Apple (or whomever) by mindlessly giving them your money.

I would like to know if these guys were the original discoverers of the encrypted file on the phones, or if they just wanted to jump on the bandwagon and try their luck at getting a bit of money from Apple.
    
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post #55 of 70
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In defense of Apple (shocked myself that I'm saying that) How different is it for Apple to track your location than any GPS device doing so? Sure, Apple/Google/etc. may use it for something such as providing advertisements that apply to your geographic location but it's not causing any harm, which may be the deciding factor for the judge. Are the customers being harmed in any way or are their locations being used in a way that infringes on any privacy laws? Most likely not.

*Shocker* Your service providers know your location. I don't see the big deal people make it to be. "OMG you know where I am!" ...Really? Come on. What do you have to hide? Apple isn't going to text your wife where you were last night or the police about you being near a crime that just occurred; that's the only thing I can imagine someone could be worried about.

You're just a contrarian. You enjoy going against the grain right? Either that or you love corporations...?
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post #56 of 70
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Originally Posted by esocid View Post
And, in typical Apple fashion, they even attempted to patent this.
"Location Histories for Location Aware Devices"

http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...DN/20110051665


I would laugh if the trial is just some guy presenting that patent and saying "nuff said". On the other hand I'm just plain sick of lawsuits involving Apple. Lets just stop posting these because there are too many. Or better yet just an Apple Lawsuit thread where a post is added for each one.
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post #57 of 70
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You're just a contrarian. You enjoy going against the grain right? Either that or you love corporations...?
*Looks at his own signature* Yea, I love corporations., especially Apple. Let's take a hop back to my post:

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In defense of Apple (shocked myself that I'm saying that)
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post #58 of 70
throwing money at the problem will make it go away, just wondering how much.
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The device stores the information, unencrypted, on your computer. There is already software available to rebuild the information into a travel map.

Do other GPS devices do that?

Also, dream up all the scenarios you want, that doesn't make me feel confident in making information more available to people. In my opinion, only a fool voluntarily discloses information such as this when it is of no benefit to themselves.

Having nothing to hide does not mean you have nothing that can be exploited.
Possibly. Does every GPS device ever made such as ones in cars or TomToms come under the same scrutiny that the iPhone does? I don't think so to be honest.
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Lol

Why does Apple always take the ass whipping?

Android does this too! Inb4buttheytellyouaboutit

This is a problem across the board, not just Apple.

Hopefully this makes some serious changes. I doubt it will come to anything though, you do agree to their terms and conditions before using the phone.
Android does it for purely functional reasons - for the GPS to function. It also only saves a cache - only as much as it needs to function. iOS saves a *log*.
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