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For all of you too cheap to pay for a quality service like XBL, now you are going to pay a real price.. having your identity stolen hahaha.
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Originally Posted by WorldExclusive View Post
I always felt the PSN was inferior because it was a free service on a proprietary platform. I happily paid the $50 Live fee for a better online experience. That was years ago, but it shows that if they had the money from subscribers, they could have provided a better service and security for their customers. Free isn't always better, except if you're playing on PC.

Hopefully this will help push devs and passionate console gamers to turn back to PC.
Yes because you know for a fact that the reason this happened is because Sony doesn't charge for their services. And that you also know for a fact that spending $50 for Xbox Live assures you that your info is safe and that XBL has more/better security.

ROFLMAO
Really?

Corky - you're a blatant Xbox fanboy. Just enough lol

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Its well documented ANON were not involved this time round,and to be honest they stand up for the little guy,lol,not steal thier CC details.The hackers responsible for this probably did this thinking they will get away with it as everyone would look in ANON's direction.SONY are the criminals for not telling you guys sooner,also ANON did you a favour by exposing a chink in SONY's security,SONY should have upped there security after that,the money they take from you guy's they could definately afford to secure such data.
Yes because what anon did was the EXACT same exploit that they used right?
And that you have proof that someone from anon wasn't involved, or all of the group for that matter?
May I ask for your sources?
I love the misinformation here lol

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You dont so dont post. Anon has said multiple times its not them. I really doubt a bunch of 15 year old "hackers" are doing this.
Exactly. But it works opposite though too - how do you know that Anon isn't doing it or someone from anon? Oh I don't know, if I say I didn't do it must mean I didn't. I might've done it before, but that doesn't mean anything~
Edited by OmegaNemesis28 - 4/26/11 at 6:28pm
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You guys act like it's hard to spend 5 minutes cancelling a credit card.

They got my email address so now I'm going to get more spam that Gmail is goings to filters out! Oh noes!

I've almost saved the cost of my console with not paying subscription fees, and PSN is reliable and fast anytime I've used it, barring recent events obviously.
Identity theft goes deeper then credit cards. Wait til theres a loan pulled in your name for $20k in Arkansas, or a new credit card in texas. They know where you live, your full name, and thats all you need to guess someones SS number.

Wonder how many people have bought an xbox 360 to play cod now...

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Yes because you know for a fact that the reason this happened is because Sony doesn't charge for their services. And that you also know for a fact that spending $50 for Xbox Live assures you that your info is safe and that XBL has more/better security.

ROFLMAO
Really?

Corky - you're a blatant Xbox fanboy. Just enough lol
Xbox has been modded and exploited for a long time... Wheres the news about them garnishing peoples accounts from them? There isnt.

Also, revenue from a service is likely to make it better then one thats free. More money = more people being paid to care.
Edited by Spunkybd - 4/26/11 at 6:26pm
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Identity theft goes deeper then credit cards. Wait til theres a loan pulled in your name for $20k in Arkansas, or a new credit card in texas. They know where you live, your full name, and thats all you need to guess someones SS number.

Wonder how many people have bought an xbox 360 to play cod now...
I understand that, but I just don't feel that will happen to me out of the thousands upon thousands in the list that are much easier targets when they find they can log into their banking and investment accounts, etc, etc.

I also pull a credit report about every 6 mos. I know a lot can happen in 6 mos., but at least I'll see it if anything does happen. I won't have to wait for collection agencies to come breathing down my neck for me to finally have a clue.

You could technically say there's the potential there, but I'm honestly not particularly worried.

As far as people acting like Xbox Live is so super secure because they pay for it, I guarantee you it would get hacked if Microsoft went out of their way to poke and prod hackers or claim their system is unhackable.

Anything is hackable.
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Xbox has been modded and exploited for a long time... Wheres the news about them garnishing peoples accounts from them? There isnt.

Also, revenue from a service is likely to make it better then one thats free. More money = more people being paid to care.
You pretty much pointed out the elephant in the room.
XBL has been exploited plenty. Yet, there is no news about that.
XBL has gown down plenty. In fact, longer than PSN has. Almost two weeks at one point actually. Yet, there really was no big news about that and almost NO one acknowledges it now.
What does that sound like to you? To me, it's sounds like people are just being biased against Sony at this point.

I'm willing to bet money that if the same heat and bias was against MS, they too would be compromised just as easily. This isn't rocket science. In fact, people have exploited MS' points system to download free things before multiple times, even recently. What does that say about MS security? Or all the JTAG and multiplayer hackers? Not much at all.
For some reason, you assume just because you're paying monthly means that there is more security. I would love to see proof of this.

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Anything is hackable.
Exactly. If MS was under the same hate train, the same situation if not worse would be happening. If a random group can find an exploitation to redeem an INFINITE number of points from code redemption, imagine what would happen if a livid, bad, evil group of scum that felt like MS was a big mean corporation that had to be taken down due to Xbox 360 could do to Xbox Live services.
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As far as people acting like Xbox Live is so super secure because they pay for it, I guarantee you it would get hacked if Microsoft went out of their way to poke and prod hackers or claim their system is unhackable.

Anything is hackable.
Exactly, which is why microsoft pays people to hack it! Its called ethical hacking and its real business worth a lot of money.

I can honestly say for the customers that i hope nothing happens. As for sony, i hope they get sued out the A for this. It all coudl have been avoided from the begining... But seeing as we dont know who did it, it may have been something that was in the works regardless.
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Regretting buying the ps3 now, had it for less than a month and barely had any bfbc2 playtime online.

Its a shame cos i was really enjoying it, but im not enjoying the fact my details could be used in some illegal scam or something

Not an xbox fanboy, but ive never heard xbox having this trouble, i guess you really do get what you pay for.
    
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Exactly, which is why microsoft pays people to hack it! Its called ethical hacking and its real business worth a lot of money.

I can honestly say for the customers that i hope nothing happens. As for sony, i hope they get sued out the A for this. It all coudl have been avoided from the begining... But seeing as we dont know who did it, it may have been something that was in the works regardless.
How could they have avoided it from the beginning? What are you on about and why would you hope Sony gets sued for it?
And yes, MS pays people to try and hack XBL with the money subscriptions.
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You pretty much pointed out the elephant in the room.
XBL has been exploited plenty. Yet, there is no news about that.
XBL has gown down plenty. In fact, longer than PSN has. Almost two weeks at one point actually. Yet, there really was no big news about that and almost NO one acknowledges it now.
What does that sound like to you? To me, it's sounds like people are just being biased against Sony at this point.

I'm willing to bet money that if the same heat and bias was against MS, they too would be compromised just as easily. This isn't rocket science. In fact, people have exploited MS' points system to download free things before multiple times, even recently. What does that say about MS security? Or all the JTAG and multiplayer hackers? Not much at all.
For some reason, you assume just because you're paying monthly means that there is more security. I would love to see proof of this.
Jtag unlocks a local xbox for modding, and is banned within an hour of connecting to XBL. Not to mention you need a xbox that HASNT been updated in years now, which is pretty rare in itself. When PS3 got hacked aimbots went RAMPANT. Xbox however has remained stable.

And when xbox servers went down its cause they didnt expect so many people on at one time, not because the got DDoS'd or hacked. Wheres the link to that article? It doesnt exist.

Your just butt hurt, and i dont blame you.. But you cant stand up for PSN or PS3 now... The battles been won.
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Identity theft goes deeper then credit cards. Wait til theres a loan pulled in your name for $20k in Arkansas, or a new credit card in texas. They know where you live, your full name, and thats all you need to guess someones SS number.
The yellow pages has your full name and address and so do a bazillion online search engines. You can't just guess someone's SS#, Sony doesn't have anyone's SS#.
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How could they have avoided it from the beginning? What are you on about and why would you hope Sony gets sued for it?
And yes, MS pays people to try and hack XBL with the money subscriptions.
They pay people to hack their OS's and phones, idk about xbl but im sure its done internally.
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