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6950 vs. 570 at 2048 by 1152?

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For my new build I was initially pretty set on an MSI 6950 2gig with a 6970 unlock, but an MSI 570 has a $50 off instant savings today on newegg bringing the price down to $290 with a mail in rebate, and I'm reconsidering my GPU choice. I know there are a slew of 6950 vs. 570 topics, and I have read all I can find, but I'm still uncertain about the performance of the two native res of 2048 by 1152.

I know 6950 performs better at high res, but at which point does the divergence in performance really become available? Is the increased VRAM of the 6950 going to make much of a difference? The 570 is obviously the better contender out of the box performance wise, but considering my relatively high resolution, is the price difference worth it even with the instant savings today? By the way, I'm buying for an anticipated bulldozer build with air cooling in an HAF 922 and probably certainly sli/crossfire down the road when I feel I'm losing ground in frame rates. I have no interest in multiple monitors, PhysX, 3d, CUDA or intensive AA/supersampling and I don't intend to seriously overclock whatever I get. My main goal is just getting as much longevity as I can out of my GPU at the best price possible, and any input would be appreciated.
Edited by Panther Modern - 4/26/11 at 3:48pm
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Granted I have not played Metro or DA 2, but I have a 570 and the same res you do and I have not seen any Vram issues outside of Heaven. Based on my experience if you stick to less than 4x AA then 90% of games for the next couple of years will be fine. Occasionally, a VRAM hog like DA2 (high res textures) will be released and you may have a issue and will have to turn off AA, but all in all you will be just fine. Therefore, get the 570. Since you don't plan to OC much you don't have to worry about the VRMs and at stock it is better than the 6950.
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finding that res is hard nowadays unless i want to blow 190 on a monitor to go eyefinitey.


in the end its up to you. 570 should be quieter. just watch it when u oc.
    
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Is this 570 deal even that good? I won't build for 2 months probably, so am I going to see better deals just by waiting?
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Is this 870 deal even that good? I won't build for 2 months probably, so am I going to see better deals just by waiting?
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Is this 870 deal even that good? I won't build for 2 months probably, so am I going to see better deals just by waiting?
I am assuming you mean 570.

There are rumors of next gen cards being released in Q3, but that is questionable at best. If you wait you would be realistically be looking at lower prices on cards currently on the market rather than new stuff.

That being said at $290 the 570 is a very good deal, IMO. For somebody who doesn't plan to OC much or turn on tons of AA this probably the best card. The 580 is overpriced -- the 6970/6950 have a big advantage in frame buffer (you don't really need that) but are slower -- you could do 6850 CFX ($330) get 580 OC type performance now, but then you have to go tri when adding a card which brings it's own set of issues.

I would recommend a 6950/70 if you where planning to overvolt and clock the card to it's limits (or had a 2560x1600 screen) -- a 580 if performance mattered way more than price -- but for your purposes the 570 (especially at $290) is a great deal.
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Thanks for the help, that really clarifies things. As for waiting I'm certainly not waiting around for 7xxx to come out, so I was pretty much just talking about price. Do you expect there will be more opportunities to snag a 570 for $290 or less by mid-June, or a significant price drop on the 6950s for that matter? If prices are going to be around there anyways I would rather just wait instead of having a card sitting around my house for 2 months. Also, how long do the newegg email deals last?
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2048 x 1152 = 2359296

That's basically the same pixel count as 1920x1200 (2304000)

I'd check 1200p benches or ask people with those screens about their VRAM usage. It should give you a good idea of what to expect.
Edited by Booty Warrior - 4/26/11 at 6:18pm
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Thanks for the help, that really clarifies things. As for waiting I'm certainly not waiting around for 7xxx to come out, so I was pretty much just talking about price. Do you expect there will be more opportunities to snag a 570 for $290 or less by mid-June, or a significant price drop on the 6950s for that matter? If prices are going to be around there anyways I would rather just wait instead of having a card sitting around my house for 2 months. Also, how long do the newegg email deals last?
If you are planning to stick with Newegg then based on what I have seen I wouldn't expect more than a 10-20 dollars drop in price on the 570 or the 6950 (outside of the odd sale/rebate) because no new tech is going to come out you before you buy. Of course, if you look elsewhere you can probably find a better deal. Newegg seems to be close to the worse case scenario for pricing. However, seeing as how you have already caught a sale, if it was me, I might just go for it.

That being said, if the card is just going to sit there until bulldozer arrives (I know the feeling, I have 6970 Lighting CFX just sitting in my room waiting for my new 1600p screen and bulldozer ) then waiting as long as the $50 sale is valid is very reasonable. Prices certainly won't go up in that time frame. I can't help you with how long the email sale will stand as I don't have any experience with that, sorry. Maybe something about that is written in the "fine print".

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Already helped him with the user experience as I also use that res. Other experiences other than mine are good but I'm not sure how many of us exist though as 2048x1152 is very non-standard Looking at benches for some extra input is a good suggestion.
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This is a pretty noobish question, but what sites would you recommend where i could get better prices on those cards than newegg? I've just been using google shopping (admittedly the weakest resource for this) and I can't find any established ones with a lower total price really.
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