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I got the M2 on the first try with the mb in vertical position. And it cools very well. It's OK, especially with a pair of San Ace Silent 9S1212P4M011's on it. But additional clips are expensive ($4.49 a pop is the lowest price I've seen) if you want that second fan.

But I've taken heatsinks off and on a lot. Most people will need to install the motherboard on the cooler, not install the cooler on the mb.

Bottom line for me is that as the owner of both a D14 and a Mugen 2, if I had enough money to buy a Silver Arrow or a D14 I wouldn't consider a Mugen 2.
Bottom line is, if you actually value saving money (or just money), you'd get the Scythe Mugen 2. Sorry, 10% easier installation procedure does not warrant more than 2x the price.
    
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Bottom line is, if you actually value saving money (or just money), you'd get the Scythe Mugen 2. Sorry, 10% easier installation procedure does not warrant more than 2x the price.
To you....that's your opinion.

The D14 and SA cool better and are quieter than the Mugen 2, hence they cost more. That's not to say the Mugen is bad, but both the D14 and SA better at the job of cooling the CPU and doing so quietly. Simple as that.
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ThermalRight Silver Arrow. I'm getting one next week.
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Tons. Like SO much.
I LOLd. With my CPU OCd at 4.2GHz with D14 i'm getting about 67 degree and with Hyper i'm getting about 70 degree. So? I don't think it's "tons" difference. Also with my current Zalman CNPSX FLEX i'm getting about 68 degree max.
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post #25 of 44
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To you....that's your opinion.

The D14 and SA cool better and are quieter than the Mugen 2, hence they cost more. That's not to say the Mugen is bad, but both the D14 and SA better at the job of cooling the CPU and doing so quietly. Simple as that.
1C cooler and 1db quieter doesn't count. The Mugen 2 is almost silent. Simple as that.

Sorry, you've given no compelling arguments to justify 2x higher price. Really, here are the benefits:

A bit easier to install
1-2C cooler
1db quieter

I'm not seeing there where it warrants $40 extra.
    
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post #26 of 44
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1C cooler and 1db quieter doesn't count. The Mugen 2 is almost silent. Simple as that.

Sorry, you've given no compelling arguments to justify 2x higher price. Really, here are the benefits:

A bit easier to install
1-2C cooler
1db quieter

I'm not seeing there where it warrants $40 extra.
1. Easier install.
2. Better cooling
3. Quieter

Thanks for proving my point. The Mugen is a great budget cooler, but there are better out there. Sorry you don't see it that way.

Also, can you provide any backup to your numbers? Perhaps a link to a credible review site that can show they are as close as you say they are?
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post #27 of 44
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1. Easier install.
2. Better cooling
3. Quieter

Thanks for proving my point. The Mugen is a great budget cooler, but there are better out there. Sorry you don't see it that way.

Also, can you provide any backup to your numbers? Perhaps a link to a credible review site that can show they are as close as you say they are?
As far as reviews go, I couldn't find one that compares the two directly. You can still get a very good guideline here and here. Keep in mind the Noctua had to dissipate 95W and the Mugen 2 130W.

They got a Core Temp on the Mugen 2 of 54C and a Core Temp on the Noctua D14 of 53C for full load. Noise on the Mugen 2 is 46 dBA, while on the D14 it's 49 dBA. So you're flat out wrong (I am a bit, too; the Mugen 2 generates less noise). The D14 is a crappy CPU cooler given its price, and this just confirms it.

Again, look at the results:

Mugen 2 on 130W TDP CPU: 54C at full load
Noctua D14 on 95W TDP CPU: 53C at full load

Mugen 2: 46 dBA at full load
Noctua D14: 49 dBA at full load.

So, it's louder, performs just as good or worse, but installs a bit easier. Doesn't look very good to me.
    
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post #28 of 44
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An H70 is on par with a 212+ with the stock fan, but with the right fans the 212 can surpass it. See here http://www.maximumpc.com/article/rev..._system_review

Running two gentle typhoons and I load around 47c
It's too bad it's $20 per typhoon... $20+20+30=$70. The H70 looks better at the 70 price range
    
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Well, I'm not sure if it was decided against in the last few pages, bt I wouod still suggest the corsair unit. Maybe the h60 not the 70. Save you some money and it cools well. And by well, I mean quite a bit better than the hyper 212+ that has become the popular budget cooler.
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Well, I'm not sure if it was decided against in the last few pages, bt I wouod still suggest the corsair unit. Maybe the h60 not the 70. Save you some money and it cools well. And by well, I mean quite a bit better than the hyper 212+ that has become the popular budget cooler.
Scythe Mugen 2 is better than both and costs $40. Read my post.
    
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