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Honestly, what you're asking can't be done on that motherboard. He's got what sounds like a considerably older LGA 775 board, that likely won't play well with quads.

WoW needs a quad core these days, and a DX11 card to max it out.

He honestly needs an entire platform upgrade. There's no sense in dumping a ton of money into a dead socket, when new hardware is cheaper.
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post #12 of 35
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Yea I might talk him into a new upgrade. I told him SB cpu, new mobo, ram, and gpu is going to get him the best gains. I'll have to have him save up some money. I think a 2500K + the new Zchipset will be good for him, or a 2600K because I know he wont overclock it.
post #13 of 35
if all he does is game the i5 2500k will be just as good as i7 2600k in gaming . save a few bucks go with the i5 and put that 100 bucks to a better gpu or ssd
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post #14 of 35
Definately doesnt need a new gpu. I run wow on my sig rig and only lag in sw when theres a ton of people around. Most of my settings are on ultra with shadow and water detail set on medium

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post #15 of 35
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Well he wants good FPS on raids. I don't play wow so I couldn't tell you how much is on the screen.
post #16 of 35
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Originally Posted by nizmoboy98 View Post
if all he does is game the i5 2500k will be just as good as i7 2600k in gaming . save a few bucks go with the i5 and put that 100 bucks to a better gpu or ssd
Well the reason for the 2600K is HT and the boost when it's needed because he won't OC it.
post #17 of 35
i5 has turbo boost to . wow only uses 4 cores no hyperthreading support not that i know of . when i ever i play wow and look at my usage only 4 cores are in use .so a i7 4c/8t vs i5 4c/4t same performance in wow. all he needs is a cpu mobo ram keep his current gpu and he will not lagg in 25man raids if he does its gonna be server lagg .

i found this http://www.wowpedia.org/CVar_processAffinityMask havent treid it yet though
Edited by nizmoboy98 - 4/28/11 at 1:16am
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post #18 of 35
If he won't overclock, get a Core i5 2400. I know it's almost a sin to those of us here to get a non K variant, but if he won't overclock, it's the best value. The reason is, it's only 200MHz slower than the Core i5 2500, but saves you $20. The Core i5 2300 is 300MHz less atop that but only saves you $5, so there's no use going down to it. Price for performance for non-overclockers, the Core i5 2400 is the sweet spot with how they're priced right now.

The Core i3s aren't worth looking at as they're dual core CPUs.

Pair the CPU with a cheap H61 or H67 motherboard since you won't overclock, and just about 4GB of DDR3 RAM, and he should be good.

Take a look at this.

GIGABYTE GA-P61-USB3-B3 LGA 1155 Intel H61 USB 3.0 ATX ($89.99)

Intel Core i5-2400 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz (3.4GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core ($189.99)

Patriot 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) ($39.99)

That's $320 w/$1 shipping, so that's three... two... one... get it! You could even shave a bit more off of the motherboard and maybe bring it around or under $300.

the second plan is simply getting a LGA775 quad core CPU, but the problem with that is that the CHEAPEST one costs about as much as a Core i5 2400 does, so it REALLY is worth it to spring for a motherboard and $40 measly worth of RAM for so much more performance, and that's also if that motherboard he has now will even take a quad core CPU.

Lastly, and probably the cheapest, someone with a Core 2 Duo E8x00 above says they're getting playable performance in that game on a dual core CPU, so if he doesn't want to do any of the above, look at this...

Intel Pentium E6700 Wolfdale 3.2GHz 2MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core ($84.99)

The Pentium Dual-core E6800 isn't really worth it. It's only 130MHz faster but the Pentium Dual-core E6700 is $15 cheaper, so it's the sweet spot in that lineup. In the end though, you're moving from a low end Core 2 Duo to a higher end Pentium Dual-core, so while he will get more performance from the higher frequency, it's sort of a side-grade and he'll be biding his time. The lower FSB/cache might effect it some, and also, if it IS an older board that won't even play well with a Core 2 Quad Q6600, a Wolfdale might be a stretch too.
Edited by Princess Garnet - 4/28/11 at 1:38am
post #19 of 35
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Well thanks for that information. I will most definitely put all of this information in front of him, and see what he wants to do with it...

Is there anyway to find out what chip is good with his mobo? That is if he wants to keep it.
post #20 of 35
Sorry. I went on what someone else said about it being an older LGA775 board assuming it may not work with newer and/or quad core LGA775 CPUs very well, if at all, so I took that into account when listing the options I did.

What motherboard is it? I don't think "Asus APK-wifi" is a motherboard. A Google search brings this very thread up as the first result.

Which ASUS board is it? Is it the ASUS P5K? If so, that's got a P35 chipset, which should work with either option two (the quad core CPU) or option three (the dual core cheaper CPU). It might need a BIOS update at most.
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