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Hey guys, I'm considering upgrading the cooling on my cpu. I currently have a mugen 2 but was thinking about going with either a silver arrow or d14. How much of an decrease would I see in temps? Would it be worth it? Or would it be a waste of money?
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Go for water and buy a secondhand H70 or something.
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You could add a couple of high cfm fans to it and shave a few degrees, but I'm doing the same thing and upgrading to a Zalman Performa.
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Put a pair of GT ap-15's on it and you'll be fine?

With your 2500k I don't think it's worth getting some as expensive as the D14 or SA, unless you plan on pushing higher then 4,6.
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Hey guys, I'm considering upgrading the cooling on my cpu. I currently have a mugen 2 but was thinking about going with either a silver arrow or d14. How much of an decrease would I see in temps? Would it be worth it? Or would it be a waste of money?
Mugen 2 Rev B costs around $40 while Silver Arrow/NH-D14 costs twice at around $80-85.

I expect the NH-D14 (and Silver Arrow) will lower the load temperature by around 5C for your i5 2500K. See pic below for the 2 coolers on an i7 870 (max TDP 95W same as your i5 2500K) at 4GHz for comparison. Sandy Bridge is relatively cooler than Lynnfield/Nehalem, so any top-of-the-line cooler will not be taken full advantage of (ie high bang-for-buck factor) unless you want to go near the extreme. But at that end of the curve, the law of diminishing return applies real quick.

Having said this, whether the money justifies this thermal delta, it has to be decided by you. If you are purely looking for thermal performance, using 2 fans to push-pull your Mugen 2 Rev B or using a single higher performance fan might also achieve very similar result, at the expense of the acoustic category.

My gut feeling is that if you are going after thermal, then it is not worth it as Mugen 2 is not that far behind.

However, if you are primarily chasing after acoustic and only secondarily thermal, perhaps it is worth it. Just a perhaps.

Edited by windfire - 4/27/11 at 4:59am
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This is why I tell people to get SA/D14 in the first place. We OCNer's are never satisfied. Getting a quiet effective SA at $75 (Directron) is only $35 more than a Mugen 2 if you buy the SA and not the M2. If you buy both you have spent $115.

Lucky for me it was only a Freezer Pro 7 I wasted before buying a Megahalems. As for the other heatsinks, it was all for fun. If you end up buying the D14/SA now, look on the M2 as a spare heatsink, or something for a wife/girlfriend/child's rig. Or sell it, though what you can get for an M2 used when Newegg is selling them for $40 new makes it probably not worth doing.

Go with your gut . . . and your pocketbook.
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Mugen 2 Rev B costs around $40 while Silver Arrow/NH-D14 costs twice at around $80-85.

I expect the NH-D14 (and Silver Arrow) will lower the load temperature by around 5C for your i5 2500K. See pic below for the 2 coolers on an i7 870 (max TDP 95W same as your i5 2500K) at 4GHz for comparison. Sandy Bridge is relatively cooler than Lynnfield/Nehalem, so any top-of-the-line cooler will not be taken full advantage of (ie high bang-for-buck factor) unless you want to go near the extreme. But at that end of the curve, the law of diminishing return applies real quick.

Having said this, whether the money justifies this thermal delta, it has to be decided by you. If you are purely looking for thermal performance, using 2 fans to push-pull your Mugen 2 Rev B or using a single higher performance fan might also achieve very similar result, at the expense of the acoustic category.

My gut feeling is that if you are going after thermal, then it is not worth it as Mugen 2 is not that far behind.

However, if you are primarily chasing after acoustic and only secondarily thermal, perhaps it is worth it. Just a perhaps.
Hmm, well one thing to note is that I'll be using the same fans as I am now on that heatsink, so acoustics will be exactly the same, aka I won't be using the stock fans on either the D14/SA.

I heard though that the d14 is a much easier heatsink to mount and deal with than the SA. That alone might make me want to go with the D14. But, in the end, the 3-5c decrease in temps probably isn't worth it to me, and i'll just stick with the mugen 2.

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This is why I tell people to get SA/D14 in the first place. We OCNer's are never satisfied. Getting a quiet effective SA at $75 (Directron) is only $35 more than a Mugen 2 if you buy the SA and not the M2. If you buy both you have spent $115.

Lucky for me it was only a Freezer Pro 7 I wasted before buying a Megahalems. As for the other heatsinks, it was all for fun. If you end up buying the D14/SA now, look on the M2 as a spare heatsink, or something for a wife/girlfriend/child's rig. Or sell it, though what you can get for an M2 used when Newegg is selling them for $40 new makes it probably not worth doing.

Go with your gut . . . and your pocketbook.
When I bought my mugen 2, the D14/SA weren't even released yet.
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I have Zalman CNPSX FLEX. It is a really good cooler. In my country it's a cheap cooler. i think one of the cheapest. Right now it costs about 38$ US. My temperature with i7 920 OCd at 4.2GHz are maximum at 68 degree. So if You could find that cooler for similar price just get it. Also i think any Prolimatech, Thermalright or Noctua will do the job pretty well.
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Not worth in my opinion the cost in my opinion. The Mugen 2 is a good HSF and pretty close to megahalems in performance.

If you did get a D14 then I recomend you use the fans that come with it. They are very queit and performa very well. (unless of course you hate the look of them )
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I am a perfecly happy Silver Arrow Owner! I chose silver arrow over d-14 so I can use my 120*38mm fans on it, but both S/A and D-14 are amazing coolers. top of the line when speaking aobut air and hybrid water coolers!
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