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Hey guys I just came from a Asus p67 Deluxe to an Asrock p67 Fatality. The deluxe was great and OCed like a champ[4.8 @ 1.48v] but I happened to get a bad batch of them which led to a cold boot issue.

Now the Asrock mb works great even though the BIOS is a bit different from the Asus's. BUT the real problem is with the OCing, I tried doing a simple OC by raising the core volatge and the ratio, but man I gotta feed a lot of voltage to get to a decent speed.

For exp, a ratio of 45 requires 1.520 volts, not only that but the Vdroop raises the voltage to 1.560 [Jebus!] I dont want to kill my CPU, and I dont know what else to change to stop this voltage hunger.

my current settings:

CPU ratio: Manual -> 44
Internal PPL OverVltg -> Enable
Intel Speedstep -> Enable
Turbo Boost:
Short ->250
Long -> 200
Long Maintained -> 1
Additional Turbo voltage: Auto
Core Current Limit: 300
BCLK: 100
Spread Spect: Disabled

DRAM config: All auto except for XMP [had to manually set my RAM's native speed of 1600]

Power Saving: Off
Core Vltg: 1.490
CPU LLC: Auto
The rest of the voltages: AUTO
Edited by warup89 - 4/26/11 at 11:55pm
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BTW it's PLL overvoltage, not PPL.
First, disable that overvoltage. It shouldn't be needed for x44 unless you have the worst chip known to man. And only a few need them at x45.

Lower your vcore to 1.425v.
Try x45 multiplier.
Leave loadline calibration on, I don't (know) what settings are possible for it, but try "very high" or "high."
I know the P8P boards had Ultra high and Extreme (which cause vrise).

Lower the PLL voltage to 1.72v
Turn off speedstep, c1e, c3, c6
And WHY is your BCLK set to 300? Typo right?
Turn off those "turbo boost" things.

Does this get you anywhere?
Edited by Falkentyne - 4/27/11 at 2:22am
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post #3 of 35
Quote:
Originally Posted by warup89 View Post
Hey guys I just came from a Asus p67 Deluxe to an Asrock p67 Fatality. The deluxe was great and OCed like a champ[4.8 @ 1.48v] but I happened to get a bad batch of them which led to a cold boot issue.

Now the Asrock mb works great even though the BIOS is a bit different from the Asus's. BUT the real problem is with the OCing, I tried doing a simple OC by raising the core volatge and the ratio, but man I gotta feed a lot of voltage to get to a decent speed.

For exp, a ratio of 45 requires 1.520 volts, not only that but the Vdroop raises the voltage to 1.560 [Jebus!] I dont want to kill my CPU, and I dont know what else to change to stop this voltage hunger.

my current settings:

CPU ratio: Manual -> 44
Internal PPL OverVltg -> Enable
Intel Speedstep -> Enable
Turbo Boost:
Short ->250
Long -> 200
Long Maintained -> 1
Additional Turbo voltage: Auto
Core Current Limit: 300
BCLK: 300
Spread Spect: Disabled

DRAM config: All auto except for XMP [had to manually set my RAM's native speed of 1600]

Power Saving: Off
Core Vltg: 1.490
CPU LLC: Auto
The rest of the voltages: AUTO
You got ur base clock at 300?!? You can wave your mobo/cpu goodbye
post #4 of 35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Falkentyne View Post
BTW it's PLL overvoltage, not PPL.
First, disable that overvoltage. It shouldn't be needed for x44 unless you have the worst chip known to man. And only a few need them at x45.

Lower your vcore to 1.425v.
Try x45 multiplier.
Leave loadline calibration on, I don't what settings are possible for it, but try "very high" or "high."
I know the P8P boards had Ultra high and Extreme (which cause vrise).

Lower the PLL voltage to 1.72v
Turn off speedstep, c1e, c3, c6
And WHY is your BCLK set to 300? Typo right?
Turn off those "turbo boost" things.

Does this get you anywhere?
Yes the BCLK was indeed a typo I meant "Core Current Limit"

This BIOS is quiet different from what I'm used to, I recently tried your settings and I actually managed to boot into Windows, before I would just get the the flashing line[no OS loaded] at anything above 4.5ghz even though, I do crash as soon as I run Prime95, so right now Im playing with the voltage going by .05volt increments.

Right now my settings are:

>>OC Tweaker<<

CPU ratio: Manual -> 45
Internal PLL OverVltg -> Disabled
Intel Speedstep -> Enable
Turbo Boost power limit: Auto [no disable option]
Additional Turbo voltage: Auto [no disable option]
Core Current Limit: 300
BCLK: 100
Spread Specrum: Disabled

DRAM config: All auto except for XMP [had to manually set my RAM's native speed of 1600]

===voltage options====

Power Saving: Off
Core Vltg: 1.430 [testing*]
CPU LLC: Auto
DRAM: 1.6v
PCH: Auto [1.059]
CPU PLL: Auto [1.832]
VTT: Auto [1.051]
VCCSA: Auto [0.925]

>>CPU Configuration<<

Hyper Threading Tech: Enabled
Active Processor cores: All
Hardware Prefetcher: Enabled
Adjacent Cache Line Prefetch: Enabled

C1E: Disabled
C3 State: Disabled
C6 State: Disabled
Package C state Support: Disabled
CPU thermal Throttling: Enabled

Virtualization Tech: Disabled
No-Execute Memory Protection: Disabled

EDIT:
I noticed something funny. whenever I run Prime my CPU down clocks itself back to 3.4Ghz, I never seen this behavior before, what could be causing it?

EDIT2:
Doing some research I found out that my "Short/Long Duration power limit" were set too low so I used the following settings:

>Turbo Boost Power Limit
->Short Duration power Limit [w]: 250
->Long Duration Power Limit [w]: 200
->Long Duration Power Limit [sec.]: 1

That resolved the down clocking, and Im still in my voltage quest, Im getting more and more stable.

EDIT3:
Yet another anomaly, my Core voltage is set at 1.445 in the BIOS and stays at around~1.440 at idle but when I load the cores it actually drops to 1.360 and after a couple of minutes BSOD.

1. Im kinda amazed that my CPU will run at 4.5/1.360 for such a long time [unstable though]
2. Im kinda confused now how my CPU requires 1.4+ voltage to boot into windows, but drops the voltage while in load.
3. I know Vdroop is the culprit here, but how can I prevent it? I did saw a "voltage offset" setting under the turbo boost options, would that be it?
Edited by warup89 - 4/27/11 at 12:38am
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http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1767703

You can check my 24/7 settings for a modest 4.6ghz

http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/6...0422225253.png

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/1...0422225324.png

http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/738/110422225346.png

^Those are from the UEFI. Maybe you can built yours from my samples. I know your chip is different but this may help you out. Also if you haven't done so, update your mobo's bios to the latest version, P1.80
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Quote:
Originally Posted by warup89 View Post
Yes the BCLK was indeed a typo I meant "Core Current Limit"

This BIOS is quiet different from what I'm used to, I recently tried your settings and I actually managed to boot into Windows, before I would just get the the flashing line[no OS loaded] at anything above 4.5ghz even though, I do crash as soon as I run Prime95, so right now Im playing with the voltage going by .05volt increments.

Right now my settings are:

>>OC Tweaker<<

CPU ratio: Manual -> 45
Internal PLL OverVltg -> Disabled
Intel Speedstep -> Enable
Turbo Boost power limit: Auto [no disable option]
Additional Turbo voltage: Auto [no disable option]
Core Current Limit: 300
BCLK: 100
Spread Specrum: Disabled

DRAM config: All auto except for XMP [had to manually set my RAM's native speed of 1600]

===voltage options====

Power Saving: Off
Core Vltg: 1.430 [testing*]
CPU LLC: Auto
DRAM: 1.6v
PCH: Auto [1.059]
CPU PLL: Auto [1.832]
VTT: Auto [1.051]
VCCSA: Auto [0.925]

>>CPU Configuration<<

Hyper Threading Tech: Enabled
Active Processor cores: All
Hardware Prefetcher: Enabled
Adjacent Cache Line Prefetch: Enabled

C1E: Disabled
C3 State: Disabled
C6 State: Disabled
Package C state Support: Disabled
CPU thermal Throttling: Enabled

Virtualization Tech: Disabled
No-Execute Memory Protection: Disabled

EDIT:
I noticed something funny. whenever I run Prime my CPU down clocks itself back to 3.4Ghz, I never seen this behavior before, what could be causing it?

EDIT2:
Doing some research I found out that my "Short/Long Duration power limit" were set too low so I used the following settings:

>Turbo Boost Power Limit
->Short Duration power Limit [w]: 250
->Long Duration Power Limit [w]: 200
->Long Duration Power Limit [sec.]: 1

That resolved the down clocking, and Im still in my voltage quest, Im getting more and more stable.

EDIT3:
Yet another anomaly, my Core voltage is set at 1.445 in the BIOS and stays at around~1.440 at idle but when I load the cores it actually drops to 1.360 and after a couple of minutes BSOD.

1. Im kinda amazed that my CPU will run at 4.5/1.360 for such a long time [unstable though]
2. Im kinda confused now how my CPU requires 1.4+ voltage to boot into windows, but drops the voltage while in load.
3. I know Vdroop is the culprit here, but how can I prevent it? I did saw a "voltage offset" setting under the turbo boost options, would that be it?
Yeah, your loadline calibration is set to "Auto" which is pretty much the same as standard. So you're going to get some nice vdroop. Play with a non auto setting; see where "high" or level 1 or level 2 or something like that gets you.

Looks like its a matter of finding out what settings you need. Suspect once you get the load vcore to 1.40v you'll stop BSOD'ing.
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post #7 of 35
wow this is the 1st time i saw someone sucked at SB ocing..when they all succeed in OCing SB like babies..(sucks thumb)

yo retrolock you look familiar from a local forum.. errr...
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post #8 of 35
pll overvoltage:enabled

fixed v core:1,35-1,4 v

LLC2

all power saving features left enabled

if stable,try to find an offset setting

5 clicks to 5 ghz on decent cooling & chip
post #9 of 35
I don't think you read ANY of his original post at all, or you would see that he can NOT do 5 ghz, at ANYTHING south of 1.55v.

Just cuz settings work for you, doesn't mean that someone else wouldn't BSOD or lock up hard just trying to load windows.

Sigh, would be nice if people could read...
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not all chips do the same thing..try to consider that fact too..
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