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Originally Posted by Ikrin View Post
It seems dumb that people would actually think that government agencies would be idiotic enough to use such SSIDs. They'd probably be hidden, if anything. MAC address filtering?
You overestimate the mental capacity of government workers when it relates to computers.
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You overestimate the mental capacity of government workers when it relates to computers.
Those with minimal Bachelor's Degrees? I hope you aren't being serious, Testes.
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Theres a bunch of people down my street who has open Wi-FI access. I only see a couple of smart ones that put a pass and use wpa2. They all have the router default names too.
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post #44 of 84
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Originally Posted by Kmon View Post
Kismet will discover the SSID when it is set not to publish.

The use of MAC filtering is just an inconvience. Kismet cat be set to pick up broadcasting AMCs and you can use it to authenticate. The best approach is to encrypted with WP2 and change the password every day. You should change the password before you transmit at least 500Megs of authentication data. this activity can be easily broken using high end graphic cards in real time.

Good surfing
You quoted me and repeated what I said for the most part. I do believe in not broadcasting your SSID just because there are stupid script kidies out there that will just jump on the first SSID that they see and they might not be using Kismet or one of the others. Like I said it doesn't help much, but it will at least make your SSID less noticable to a lot of software. I've ran into alot of people that think it is OK to be unsecured and not show the SSID which is very wrong.

Though I forgot to put to use WPA2...but that should be self explanatory in the context of the thread.

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Originally Posted by admflameberg View Post
Theres a bunch of people down my street who has open Wi-FI access. I only see a couple of smart ones that put a pass and use wpa2. They all have the router default names too.
I have a 200MB data plan on my phone and I have never even come close to the max. Every where I go I am guarentied to find a SSID named "linksys" or something similar that is wide open. They really need to start talking about this on 60 Minutes or something. People can be really hurt by this...like this guy in the OP.
Edited by Vagrant Storm - 4/27/11 at 10:02am
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post #45 of 84
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I still used wired for exactly this reason. Although when I get a smart phone soon I think I will be forced to go wireless...

This is exactly why you name you wireless network "Police Surveillance Van #3" or something similar. I got that idea from another thread here on OCN about this topic.
That wouldn't change...anything. Why in G-d's name would a police van have a wifi router? Even if they used internet, maybe via satellite (which I doubt) why wouldn't they use a wired one?

My first reaction if I saw that would be "does this guy actually think I'm this stupid?"
    
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post #46 of 84
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Originally Posted by Smoka Cola View Post
I have my wireless SSID hidden, with a WPA2 encryption. Good luck!
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Originally Posted by wtomlinson View Post
hidden SSIDs aren't fool proof.
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Originally Posted by TheLastPriest View Post
I dont know that it is about being fool proof, its about making yourself the harder target
Having your network "hidden" actually makes it easier to crack.
Read an article about it a while back. Basically if it is hidden, your device will keep sending requests to each other trying to make sure the network is still there, and this is done unsecured, and within this is password and data info.

Just google "Hide SSID bad" and read away.

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I'm pretty sure if someone is going to go for a wifi connection they'll check for opened ones first, if not they'll go for WEP connections, then WPA2, if all else fails they'll scan for hidden.
If they are hacking networks, they will have a scanner that shows all networks, "hidden" or not, but yes, their order will be unsecured, WEP then WPA(2).

Also, MAC address filtering does nothing except inconvenience you if a friend wants to use your wireless.
It takes 2 seconds to spoof a MAC address (but I guess a few to find it).


My brother bet me dinner I could not get onto his network. All he had done was hide his SSID and had his MAC filtering set to only allow his netbook, notebook and his 2 mobile phones.
Took me less than 2 minutes, It was a good dinner.
I did cheat though. I grabbed his wifes phone and looked at her MAC address, and spoofed it on my iPhone. If I knew what I was doing, I could have found a mac address with one of many programs out there.
He is one of these that lives in the "middle of nowhere", yet from inside his house, I had 2 other wireless networks visible on my iPhone (each neighbor is about 400 yards from his house).

Needless to say, he now has WPA2 enabled (with SSID enabled, no MAC filtering and a 16 character password), and also has his transmit power turned down so the signal barely reaches 200 yards away.
Edited by blupupher - 4/27/11 at 10:52am
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post #47 of 84
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That wouldn't change...anything. Why in G-d's name would a police van have a wifi router? Even if they used internet, maybe via satellite (which I doubt) why wouldn't they use a wired one?

My first reaction if I saw that would be "does this guy actually think I'm this stupid?"
But if you were looking for a wireless network to do something illegal on would you choose the "police van" network or one of the other 10 choices?
    
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This is funny because I was watching an episode of CSI the other day, the guy broke onto his WiFi access and sent emails out in an attempt to frame the homeowner. Obviously, it was not just the emails that got the homeowner framed, but it certainly helped the case when they traced the IP address.
I said,"Wow, for once CSI is actually somewhat believable." Other then ENHANCE ENHANCE ENHANCE, they used an actually plausible situation. Someone using your internet access unknowingly and then the law thinks it's you.
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But if you were looking for a wireless network to do something illegal on would you choose the "police van" network or one of the other 10 choices?
I would choose "police van" since I know it could not possibly be the police while "Mike's Router" could very well actually be the police.
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What I hate is when people have unsecured wireless...and then enable sharing!

I've actually put .txts on random peoples' desktops telling them how bad of a situation they have going and how they can fix it. Heh, I've also sent them to some printers. I have one nieghbor with the SSID of "Selma" that I have done both too and she still has a wide open network broadcasting to the niegborhood. Too many people arround or else I'd go find her and offer to fix it.
LMAO, that is just classic. I would do this but no one has an open router in range of my house.
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