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Originally Posted by tout View Post
He is bottlenecked in gaming but he originally started this thread about the fact that Nvidia's drivers would clock his GPU down even if he tried to force it into 3D clocks. This thread has turned into an 'I told you so' about his bottleneck and insult fest.

I would think that his original post represents a possible glitch or bug in Nvidia drivers for Windows XP. Nvidia claims full support for Windows XP with a 460 and he was saying that it would clock his 460 into 2D mode even during gaming until he found a trick to force 3D clocks on.
The problem is not a glitch or a bug with the Nvidia drivers. The problem is the fact that he's on a 2.2GHz, K8 single core CPU. His GPU is sitting there twiddling its thumbs, waiting for instructions.

If he had even a K8 dual core in there, at say 3.0GHz, or even a Sempron 140 single core, he wouldn't be having this issue. It would still be a bottleneck, but not NEARLY as bad.

This is no different than pairing a GTX590 with a Pentium 3, and expecting the Pentium 3 to not bottleneck it.

EDIT:
And why did you buy a GTX460 for an HTPC? A GT210 or GT220 would have been perfect, and silent.

And you STILL haven't given me an actual gaming benchmark to run. I'm waiting.
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=.=

THAT'S THE POINT you moron. That CPU alone used in their test rig cost more than my whole PC. Even with my GTX 460 (which was £130 over 8 months ago) mine barely cost £240 (CPU+MOBO+HS = £30, RAM £40, PSU £30, GPU £130, case £10) and because of this card, I don't have to build a HTPC as well since it's quiet enough.
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He is bottlenecked in gaming but he originally started this thread about the fact that Nvidia's drivers would clock his GPU down even if he tried to force it into 3D clocks. This thread has turned into an 'I told you so' about his bottleneck and insult fest.

I would think that his original post represents a possible glitch or bug in Nvidia drivers for Windows XP. Nvidia claims full support for Windows XP with a 460 and he was saying that it would clock his 460 into 2D mode even during gaming until he found a trick to force 3D clocks on.
But I (and some other users here as well I think) believe that it's downclocking because the CPU is so slow it can't churn out the frames for the GTX460 to render fast enough, so the GTX460 can just sit around at lower clocks and still render fast enough to keep up with the CPU.

I doubt the problem is with Nvidia and the drivers, but with his CPU

EDIT: Ninja'd, what's up with pioneerisloud, he's like some sort of super thread ninja!
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This just got personal.
It's been personal. He called me a liar, for following HIS instructions. Just because my GT240 raped his 460.
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Originally Posted by Am* View Post
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THAT'S THE POINT you moron. That CPU alone used in their test rig cost more than my whole PC. Even with my GTX 460 (which was £130 over 8 months ago) mine barely cost £240 (CPU+MOBO+HS = £30, RAM £40, PSU £30, GPU £130, case £10) and because of this card, I don't have to build a HTPC as well since it's quiet enough.
Really? Because the point still seems to be eluding you.

YOU'RE CPU BOTTLENECKED. No amount of breaking the TOS will change that. Your POS CPU is responsible for your dismal performance. Replace it = problem solved. Price has nothing to do with it.

Also, we're not comparing the test rig to YOUR CPU. We're comparing it to PIONEERs CPU. God. Do I have to hold your hand through this?

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This just got personal.
Rofl.
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Originally Posted by tout View Post
He is bottlenecked in gaming but he originally started this thread about the fact that Nvidia's drivers would clock his GPU down even if he tried to force it into 3D clocks. This thread has turned into an 'I told you so' about his bottleneck and insult fest.

I would think that his original post represents a possible glitch or bug in Nvidia drivers for Windows XP. Nvidia claims full support for Windows XP with a 460 and he was saying that it would clock his 460 into 2D mode even during gaming until he found a trick to force 3D clocks on.
Weird. When I was using XP it worked just fine, no issues with clocking or anything.

This was two months ago. Perhaps the newest drivers are screwy...?

EDIT: That CPU... Oh god. Definitely bottlenecking there. Perhaps your CPU isn't providing enough info for the GPU, and that is why it's downclocking. Games like TF2, Portal, all Source games tend to run at 2D clocks on my GPU for this reason.
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I think we should have one of these threads per week, I haven't laughed this much in a long time.

I guess $400 doesn't buy you a lot these days.
    
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I think we should have one of these threads per week, I haven't laughed this much in a long time.
I'd like one a day, please.
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Jesus...I start a thread about Nvidia's crap support for XP and I get spammed by people starting e-peen contests.


Mods, lock this thread. It's obvious 70% of people here can't read the OP before they post.
    
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