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So I already placed an order for Sennheiser PC 360. After doing all the research, I felt this was the headset for me. Now thats out of the way, onto the following..

I have an X-Fi Titanium HD that I purchased last year. As far as I'm concerned, this sound card does not come with a headphone amplifier (still sounds good though). Will I be missing out on any potential using my titanium HD paired up with my PC 360? Should I look into an aftermarket headphone amplifier? Or how about sell my Titanium HD and switch to an Asus Xonar Essence ST/STX (with built in amp)? Also, another option....the titanium HD has something called Op Amps that are swappable....is this another route I can shoot for?

From doing my research on the PC 360, they say you don't need an amplifier as much as the predecessor PC 350 did. But I'm just wondering if the PC 360 will benefit from an amplifier, and if it does, which route should I go? Any amplifier brands you guys can recommend would be greatly appreciated!
Edited by steven88 - 4/27/11 at 7:22am
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post #2 of 18
You don't need one.
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The PC360 ought to reach its full potential with the Titanium HD. The TiHD has plenty of power to drive those. If you are really interested in swapping the operational amplifiers (opamps) on the Titanium HD, then you can probably order a couple LME49720 dual opamp chips to get started.
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It's a shame you already had the Titanium HD. I was going to say you should get the Xense bundle and really see how good it is for gaming, but I'm sure you won't be disappointed with the Titanium HD +PC360s. The HD should have more than enough power for the 360s.
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The PC360 ought to reach its full potential with the Titanium HD. The TiHD has plenty of power to drive those. If you are really interested in swapping the operational amplifiers (opamps) on the Titanium HD, then you can probably order a couple LME49720 dual opamp chips to get started.
cool, thanks for the input. I been following your thread and it looks like I'll just stick with my Titanium HD and not worry about losing money on depreciation by selling it used. I know the TiHD is a great card...it made a difference coming from an X-fi Titanium non HD model, same speakers/headset combo too....

so switching the op amps, this is NOT a poweramplifier right? it basically changes the way the card will sound? What kind of results will I be getting when switching to LME49720 versus factory?

http://cgi.ebay.com/LME49720-Pro-Aud...ht_1806wt_1139

I need to buy two right?
Edited by steven88 - 4/27/11 at 7:37am
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It's a shame you already had the Titanium HD. I was going to say you should get the Xense bundle and really see how good it is for gaming, but I'm sure you won't be disappointed with the Titanium HD +PC360s. The HD should have more than enough power for the 360s.
yeah i know....I would have bought the combo if I didn't have nothing at all. It's a great combo from what I've read

I been a creative labs fan for years...originally had the X-Fi fatal1ty FPS PCI...back in 2006...then went with the X-Fi Titanium non HD model in 2008....now X-fi Titanium HD in 2010....I always loved how aftermarket sound cards sounded over mobo audio...too bad I was bottlenecking it with crappy headsets all this time....I'm usually pairing it up with Creative's fatal1ty headsets. First one was MKi then MKii...haha....I guess I was too busy gaming or doing other stuff that I overlooked this bottleneck...but now I've done my research, I'm ready for the high end headset jump
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Yes, you will need to buy two or if you're in college, you can order samples from National Semiconductor. Remember to replace only the NJM2114/JRC2114 I/V opamps because those are actually dual opamps in a single package. You need not replace the LME49710s that are used for buffering and you shouldn't because those are single opamp packages (they're actually single versions of the LME49720). Before you go ahead and do this, you might want to look at the voltage ranges that the JRC2114s operate at and compare it with the LME49720s.

I actually have five LME49720NAs that just came in last week so I'm going to start swapping opamps soon on both my TiHD and my STX.
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post #8 of 18
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Yes, you will need to buy two or if you're in college, you can order samples from National Semiconductor. Remember to replace only the NJM2114/JRC2114 I/V opamps because those are actually dual opamps in a single package. You need not replace the LME49710s that are used for buffering and you shouldn't because those are single opamp packages (they're actually single versions of the LME49720). Before you go ahead and do this, you might want to look at the voltage ranges that the JRC2114s operate at and compare it with the LME49720s.

I actually have five LME49720NAs that just came in last week so I'm going to start swapping opamps soon on both my TiHD and my STX.
how would I check for something like this? Would I crack open the sound card?
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post #9 of 18
You'll have to look at datasheets. I think Creative's site might actually have something as well.

EDIT:
http://support.creative.com/kb/ShowA...aspx?sid=85621

Supply voltages are what you're looking for:
NJM2114
LME49720
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post #10 of 18
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Thanks for the informative post Rally

So I actually need to two NJM2114 not LME49720?

And Sorry for the newb questions...but I am assuming the NJM2114's are the two opamps located closest to the RCA/headphone jacks?
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