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How is it better as a paperweight when all those features outweigh such a comment.

Since I keep mentioning Capture Pilot, here's an example. It's better on the iPad because it has a bigger screen.

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Much better then the original, hope you enjoy your purchase !



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I agree that capture pilot is pretty solid. but not $800 solid

Its a paperweight because theres no point in lugging it around if it doesnt do anything better then a laptop+phone.

Stop using the capture pilot example not many people use that. If your buying it for that good for you its awesome for that, but thats not why people buy them.
    
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Originally Posted by arekieh View Post
I agree that capture pilot is pretty solid. but not $800 solid

Its a paperweight because theres no point in lugging it around if it doesnt do anything better then a laptop+phone.

Stop using the capture pilot example not many people use that. If your buying it for that good for you its awesome for that, but thats not why people buy them.
Too bad, I'm using it as an example since it's out there. Even if it's more of a minority it proves the tablet has a use. And yes, it's $800 solid since it's insanely useful.

And it's a paperweight since it doesn't do anything better than a phone+laptop? Well it's a lot more portable than a laptop and way quicker to access. I find it gets annoying having to pull my laptop out over and over again to do things on it and the phone has limited screen real estate in comparison to a tablet.
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Originally Posted by arekieh View Post
1. Granted
2. True
3. True
4. True
5. True
6. True
7. True
8. True

BUT i can do all of this with a mixture of my phone/laptop. And usually easier/better in every circumstance.
Your not convincing me your just going into more detail where you can use it not why its better then a laptop or phone for w/e function.

I still think its better as a paperweight.
The laptop is too bulky while my phone's screen is much too small. My BB can display only one molecular structure or two-three lines of a protocol at once, which given the volume of my work is not acceptable. The laptop on the other hand is just too plain bulky to use when on the move. I have it at my desk at all times, and it's great for use in the office, but when I'm moving about or when I'm in the lab, it's a no-go for me.

The iPad is a great middle ground between the two. It has a larger screen than the phone while being much more portable than the laptop. The mobility is a must because I'm always moving between my office, the fume hood, the work bench, and the live animal testing lab. The large screen and easy to use UI is also a must because I often have to refer to multiple molecular structures, compounds, info on media, different lab protocols, etc.

Honestly, going into detail probably won't work. It's just one of those things where you have to have lab experience to really understand why the iPad is a perfect medium compared to a laptop or smartphone.

If it's not for you, then honestly, it's not for you, but it's a different thing entirely to knock it completely esp when there are tons of users out there with different needs/requirements/wants.
post #116 of 126
Oh MY GOD Capture Pilot!!

WOW!!

GROUND BREAKING!!

That's one expensive feature.
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Too bad, I'm using it as an example since it's out there. Even if it's more of a minority it proves the tablet has a use. And yes, it's $800 solid since it's insanely useful.

And it's a paperweight since it doesn't do anything better than a phone+laptop? Well it's a lot more portable than a laptop and way quicker to access. I find it gets annoying having to pull my laptop out over and over again to do things on it and the phone has limited screen real estate in comparison to a tablet.
So your paying $800 for screen realestate? Stupid imo.

My phone is just as powerful as a tablet and just as fast/can do 99% of anything you can do on a tablet. I pull my phone out for 75% of things, for stuff thatll take a while i pull out my laptop.


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The laptop is too bulky while my phone's screen is much too small. My BB can display only one molecular structure or two-three lines of a protocol at once, which given the volume of my work is not acceptable. The laptop on the other hand is just too plain bulky to use when on the move. I have it at my desk at all times, and it's great for use in the office, but when I'm moving about or when I'm in the lab, it's a no-go for me.

The iPad is a great middle ground between the two. It has a larger screen than the phone while being much more portable than the laptop.

Honestly, going into detail probably won't work. It's just one of those things where you have to have lab experience to really understand why the iPad is a perfect medium compared to a laptop or smartphone.

If it's not for you, then honestly, it's not for you, but it's a different thing entirely to knock it completely esp when there are tons of users out there with different needs/requirements/wants.
Seems like you need a new phone.
Its a great middle ground between a BB and a laptop but not an android phone and a laptop.
Lab experience? I work in a biochemistry lab.... I use my phone for almost everything or walk over to my laptop if i need to do anything more intensive.

Im not knocking requirements or users. Im saying that its a POS and noone should buy it. Why? Because its next to useless for the price. It would be a great "fun" device for a couple hundred bucks. But at $800 it should serve a purpose other then "well its a bit more convenient then pulling out my laptop".
    
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Have you actually tried playing around or working with some of the apps on an iPad, arekieh?
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So your paying $800 for screen realestate? Stupid imo.

My phone is just as powerful as a tablet and just as fast/can do 99% of anything you can do on a tablet. I pull my phone out for 75% of things, for stuff thatll take a while i pull out my laptop.


Seems like you need a new phone.
Its a great middle ground between a BB and a laptop but not an android phone and a laptop.
Lab experience? I work in a biochemistry lab.... I use my phone for almost everything or walk over to my laptop if i need to do anything more intensive.

Im not knocking requirements or users. Im saying that its a POS and noone should buy it. Why? Because its next to useless for the price. It would be a great "fun" device for a couple hundred bucks. But at $800 it should serve a purpose other then "well its a bit more convenient then pulling out my laptop".
$800? I think we have the misunderstanding nailed. I'm looking at the cheaper iPad 1 for $350.

And I've used my co-worker's HTC-something too. It also doesn't cut it. Pain in the rear-end to refer to material again because of the screen size. That's also not including how difficult it is to enter raw data from our protein quantification assays, or how hard it is to multitask on the phone, switch back and forth between protocols, data, and reference material, etc.

Like I said, if it's not for you, it's not for you, but don't project it onto other people as well.
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$800? I think we have the misunderstanding nailed. I'm looking at the cheaper iPad 1 for $350.

And I've used my co-worker's HTC-something too. It also doesn't cut it. Pain in the rear-end to refer to material again because of the screen size. That's also not including how difficult it is to enter raw data from our protein quantification assays, or how hard it is to multitask on the phone, switch back and forth between protocols, data, and reference material, etc.

Like I said, if it's not for you, it's not for you, but don't project it onto other people as well.
At $350 its not bad but still a bit much imo.
With the pervasive $500-$800 that most people are paying i still think its useless.

You have to remember that im not talking about you or Marin, because your part of the 1% that actually uses it for something other then games, pictures and movies.

Also, blanket statements apply. Theyre true 99% of the time and thats all that matters. You 1% outliers nobody cares about and nobody looks at (if you know what i mean).


Stop arguing specific cases and get general. Everything has its use for some specific case even if it costs 10 million dollars and can only do one simple task it could be worth it to somebody. But that is a special niche and nobody is talking about that.
    
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