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Apparently you missed it:



If you're gonna bash, that's fine. Even the moderators here are getting in on the bashing (which quite frankly, is embarrassing for this forum). But at least get the argument straight.
Which mods are mindlessly bashing them?

I was asking what they could possibly do with the information, and nathris cleared it up. Besides, if you literally pick apart that statement from Apple that you quoted, it's actually quite specific to their "iAds" system, and Apple very nicely side-steps what they do with the location info, and there's no mention that the location info they store that's in question has anything to do with their iAds system.
    
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What's funny and makes Apple look stupid is that they confirm that kind of activity a year ago, but now it was mentioned again they call it a ''Bug''.

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If you're gonna bash, that's fine. Even the moderators here are getting in on the bashing (which quite frankly, is embarrassing for this forum). But at least get the argument straight.
We may be staff but we are allowed an opinion on the matter. Nothing embarrassing about that.
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I don't get the big deal. Apple has said they don't disclose information to third parties, and that it's a bug that the file remains and continues to store data while location services is off.
If Apple said that unicorns exist, would you believe it as well?
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This whole thing is just ridiculous. Apple is a business. Businesses are there to make as much money as possible. Why is anyone surprised that they would sell location data to 3rd parties to make more money?

It's very simple. If you like the iPhone, buy one. If you don't, don't. Do we really need all these threads about the same thing?
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I guess Apple patents bugs all the time.

Location Histories for Location Aware Devices
http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...DN/20110051665
From the CNN thread. Why is Apple denying that they do something they made a patent for?
     
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If Apple said that unicorns exist, would you believe it as well?
No, but this is different. If Apple is lying, they'll likely be caught out. I don't believe that Apple would actually sell my very inaccurate movements to some third party, it doesn't make any sense.


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From the CNN thread. Why is Apple denying that they do something they made a patent for?
They're just dumbing it down for the general public.
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What's all the fuss about? If you want to use location services, guess what: it has to locate your position with GPS/WiFi to help you find the nearest coffee shop or navigate with google maps.

If you don't want it to, it's as easy as pushing a button:


This isn't any different than Android.
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WHY can't it read!!??
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No, but this is different. If Apple is lying, they'll likely be caught out. I don't believe that Apple would actually sell my very inaccurate movements to some third party, it doesn't make any sense.



They're just dumbing it down for the general public.
To answer your implied question about selling that information it has plenty of sense. The information that is gathered is then organized and analysed by businesses to understand what people from where and when bought a good and how often. Businesses think that by knowing more information about you without actually asking you for information will get them relevant information that can help them sell things to you. Sadly for most people that is true.

Also, the difference between "dumbing down" and hiding something should be looked at.
     
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To answer your implied question about selling that information it has plenty of sense. The information that is gathered is then organized and analysed by businesses to understand what people from where and when bought a good and how often. Businesses think that by knowing more information about you without actually asking you for information will get them relevant information that can help them sell things to you. Sadly for most people that is true.
I can't believe Apple would do something like that until it can be proven otherwise. You'd think they'd be keeping clean tracks if they were, there isn't any need for a year old file if they were monitoring you.
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Also, the difference between "dumbing down" and hiding something should be looked at.
Are we talking about the same thing? I'm referring to SJ's saying that the reason it has gathered a year's worth of data is a "bug". To say "bug" is better for them than "an oversight", the latter implies fault on their part whereas bug let's them off the hook.
Edited by steelbom - 4/28/11 at 10:03pm
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