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Yeah there is, right next to PSU, hmm...
I'm a bit worried about all the dust getting sucked in, or rather stuck on the filter, as I won't be able to clean it more than every 2-3 months.
I forgot to mention, I too have a 120 intake on the bottom in front of the PSU. It's not bad if you use the filters that come with the case and keep the area around the tower clean. I have 4 cats and a dog, so I'm pretty extreme example...haha.

What I did step by step:
  1. Removed lower hard drive cage and put my 2 SSD's and 1 HDD in the top two slots.
  2. Move the front 140mm Blue LED fan down to the lower position to help move more air in.
  3. Put a 120mm intake fan on the bottom right up next to the PSU. (I may or may not put another one in front of it since there is room...haven't decided)
  4. Hung a 120mm fan on off the hard drive cage pushing air to the back of the case over the GPU.
  5. Set my front top 140mm case fan as intake to feed fresh, cool air to the CPU heatsink.
  6. Set the rear top 140mm case fan to exhaust.
  7. Set the rear back panel fan to exhaust.
  8. Placed a 120mm intake fan on the door in the bottom position.


Basically all intake with the two exhaust being the rear and top rear fans.

I have everything set to 4 zones on my Lamptron fan controller so that I can make adjustments as needed. All in all, it works great. Most of the time I have my fans set to 50% to keep noise down. My system chugs at 100% pretty much 24/7 for folding or gaming and I have no complaints. Even with everything overclocked and ambient temps creeping upward to 25C when my girlfriend closes the window my CPU never goes above mid 60's and is usually 60C-62C. My GPU hangs around 55C-60C when gaming and 58-62C when folding.

This setup fits my needs perfectly. So much so that I am rethinking about moving to W/C right away.
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I forgot to mention, I too have a 120 intake on the bottom in front of the PSU. It's not bad if you use the filters that come with the case and keep the area around the tower clean. I have 4 cats and a dog, so I'm pretty extreme example...haha.

What I did step by step:
  1. Removed lower hard drive cage and put my 2 SSD's and 1 HDD in the top two slots.
  2. Move the front 140mm Blue LED fan down to the lower position to help move more air in.
  3. Put a 120mm intake fan on the bottom right up next to the PSU. (I may or may not put another one in front of it since there is room...haven't decided)
  4. Hung a 120mm fan on off the hard drive cage pushing air to the back of the case over the GPU.
  5. Set my front top 140mm case fan as intake to feed fresh, cool air to the CPU heatsink.
  6. Set the rear top 140mm case fan to exhaust.
  7. Set the rear back panel fan to exhaust.
  8. Placed a 120mm intake fan on the door in the bottom position.


Basically all intake with the two exhaust being the rear and top rear fans.

I have everything set to 4 zones on my Lamptron fan controller so that I can make adjustments as needed. All in all, it works great. Most of the time I have my fans set to 50% to keep noise down. My system chugs at 100% pretty much 24/7 for folding or gaming and I have no complaints. Even with everything overclocked and ambient temps creeping upward to 25C when my girlfriend closes the window my CPU never goes above mid 60's and is usually 60C-62C. My GPU hangs around 55C-60C when gaming and 58-62C when folding.

This setup fits my needs perfectly. So much so that I am rethinking about moving to W/C right away.
This is perfect..untell number 6. Having an exhaust fan right next to the intake fan makes no sence what so ever. your just feeding hot air from the case into the intake fan. block the rear fan slot off.
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I would just add one more intake fan. Put in either the bottom, the lower mount on the side panel, or rig one in the empty 5.25 bays.
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This is perfect..untell number 6. Having an exhaust fan right next to the intake fan makes no sence what so ever. your just feeding hot air from the case into the intake fan. block the rear fan slot off.
I don't agree. They are spaced enough that it does not happen. I have taken temperature readings of the air coming in from the intake fan with the top rear exhaust fan on and off, no noticeable difference.

When you put your hand under the intake fan the air is cool, not warm. It does not make a loop back in to the case as you are suggesting. Try it yourself.
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From my experience with modding this case, the best air flow that resulted in the lowest temperature defies conventional wisdom and is completely different from what most are describing here (esp first photo).
    
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From my experience with modding this case, the best air flow that resulted in the lowest temperature defies conventional wisdom and is completely different from what most are describing here (esp first photo).
Yes, also each system is differnt. Case size, fan size/cfm/static pressure/ ambiant temp's, ect,ect,ect all make each build a little diffrent to cool. As for the top exhaust/intake, i only noticed cooler temps once that fan slot was blocked off. Not to say your wrong, just adding what I have found to work on my rig Ehume's sig clicky's helps me get my temps the coolest thus far(with slight moddification). It all boil's down to: Your gonna have to swap around fans, and see what works in your system. Back to yellowtoblerone yea, when working with air/water cooling systems things can get weird very fast
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What kind of fan bearing is best for horizontal mounts?
As far as I know, sleeve fans might suffer durability-wise when mounted non-vertically which leaves me with ball, rifle and fluid bearing, right?

Is there any cheaper alternative to Gentle Typhoons for case cooling? As much as I love my rig, paying more for fans then the case itself (that came with fans as well) is something I'd have to think about some more... Oh yeah, I also don't like the gray/white blades on them ^^.
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What kind of fan bearing is best for horizontal mounts?
As far as I know, sleeve fans might suffer durability-wise when mounted non-vertically which leaves me with ball, rifle and fluid bearing, right?

Is there any cheaper alternative to Gentle Typhoons for case cooling? As much as I love my rig, paying more for fans then the case itself (that came with fans as well) is something I'd have to think about some more... Oh yeah, I also don't like the gray/white blades on them ^^.
Yes there is. You can get 120mm fans that move some decent air for 5 bucks or less you get what you pay for. GT fans make the least amount of noise for the amount of air the move, and keep good pressure while doing it. If you just want high airflow and noise isnt a problem, pick up any fan.CM has a good line up of cheap fans.
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Is there anything you'd change?

Graphic card is GTX 570 DirectCU II so it doesn't dump any heat back into case.
I reckon the Asus GTX570 DirectCU II not only does dump heat into the case but dumps a majority (>85%) of the exhaust into the case. The air enters the 2 fans and, due to the orientation of the fins, majority of the hot air will escape via the card's top and bottom while a minority will escape via the front and via the rear exhaust slot. See pic below, showing the top, front and rear (but not showing the bottom red arrows).

IMHO, this makes this card one of the nastiest as far as thermal management inside a case is concerned. Fortunately, you are using only 1 such card.

There is only 1 sensible direction to supply fresh air to the card's 2 intake fans, ie from the case bottom (as the 2 fans are facing down)
And there is also 1 logical direction for the exhausted hot air to escape out of the case, ie via the case top.

So, I suggest:
1) put 2 intake fans to the case bottom, blowing fresh air up to feed the card
2) put 2 exhaust fans to the case top, forming the upward draft to exhaust the hot air
3) put 2 intake fans to the side panel to supply fresh air to the VenX. This needs some actual experiments to determine the speed of the fans.
4) VenX is setup exhausting vertically up to case top
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Yes there is. You can get 120mm fans that move some decent air for 5 bucks or less you get what you pay for. GT fans make the least amount of noise for the amount of air the move, and keep good pressure while doing it. If you just want high airflow and noise isnt a problem, pick up any fan.CM has a good line up of cheap fans.
Problem is, most of CM fans are sleeve bearing which makes them not so desirable for horizontal mounting :/.
I'm specifically looking for a 140mm fan with non-sleeve bearing, I'm really happy with CM 690 II Adv stock fans when it comes to noise so I'd like something that's at least as quiet.
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