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I doubt it was Anonymous. They go off the v for vendetta for the good of the people kinda vibe. They are more likely to take down paypal for withdrawing from supporting wiki leaks then steal a bunch of peoples info.
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Originally Posted by SugarySnack View Post
I don't care what level of security something has, if Sony was given data to keep safe, that is THEIR responsibility.

So if my bank got hacked, and took all of my money, the bank is not at fault? How does that make any sense? (Seeing as banks most likely have incredible security)
If a bank was hacked and robbed of every dime, I don't think their customers would get very far in a lawsuit against them. FDIC covers your loss, you have nothing to complain about other than the temporary inconvenience of having to pay with cash. Pretty extreme example.

Plain and simple, if a company had adequate security on their systems but some mastermind managed to hack into it and steal information about the company's customers, the company isn't much at fault. I highly doubt you'd feel at fault if you were the one who was hacked. You'd immediately jump to cover your ass by showing how many millions of dollars you put into your security. It's rather ludicrous to even think that a corporation as huge as Sony wouldn't secure their customer data. They did, and did it well, and I'm sure they can prove they had adequate security. Someone just simply did "the impossible."
Edited by Stealth Pyros - 4/27/11 at 2:20pm
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Sony is just saying this so they dont have to have PSN free anymore. Its gonna cost money to keep it secure now. If they can blame hackers for everything like making the systems unsecure then attcking PSN people will think there is good reason to pay for this service now. Follow the money.
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Sony is just saying this so they dont have to have PSN free anymore. Its gonna cost money to keep it secure now. If they can blame hackers for everything like making the systems unsecure then attcking PSN people will think there is good reason to pay for this service now. Follow the money.
While Sony has no obligation to provide PSN for free, I don't see this happening. They have PSN Store sales and PSN Gold memberships for making revenue from PSN already. Forcing everyone to pay for PSN will only hurt them, losing them thousands of PSN Store sales.

Think:

Give PSN free to 10,000 (wild figure just for this example) members whom each spend ~$5 a month on PSN Store stuff?

Or charge ~7,000 members (say 3,000 drop from PSN because they refuse to pay) whom each also spend less on the PSN Store due to the cost of having PSN?
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post #35 of 43
Blumenthal is a person? Wow, I figured it was a cigarette brand. Sony should have put out the notification sooner though.
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Originally Posted by Stealth Pyros View Post
While Sony has no obligation to provide PSN for free, I don't see this happening. They have PSN Store sales and PSN Gold memberships for making revenue from PSN already. Forcing everyone to pay for PSN will only hurt them, losing them thousands of PSN Store sales.

Think:

Give PSN free to 10,000 (wild figure just for this example) members whom each spend ~$5 a month on PSN Store stuff?

Or charge ~7,000 members (say 3,000 drop from PSN because they refuse to pay) whom each also spend less on the PSN Store due to the cost of having PSN?
Seems logical but for some reason I think they figure hey we are gonna lose a bulk of those sales anyway if people arent spending the money there because now they can hack there own PS3... Now is a great time to say holy crap guys we are sorry for losing your info to HACKERS but we gotta make this more secure and the only way to do this is to pay for the service.

A constant stream of revenue for online play. Now people are hooked and would pay for the service. Maybe not you.. but plenty of people will. Just like cell phone companies with unlimited data plans. I used to never pay for that crap now I am like hmm I kinda liked looking at the weather when I am standing outside, Ill pay 25 a month now.

Perfect time to roll out a new plan.
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How do you know they failed? You clearly don't understand network infruastructure and how they relate to security. You can only lock down so much before inherent holes in the technology become evident and exploited. The person who did this was likely very skilled, and it may have taken them years to do so.
Sony uploaded the keys to the Database on a site called http://rebug.me and anyone could download them and force them onto a normal (non-dev) PS3 console and then access the 75 million accounts and credit card numbers.

It doesn't take a very skilled car thief to steal a car which has it's keys left beside the ignition and the doors unlocked.

http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comme...ecom_the_real/
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Solid proof PSN credit cards are being used for fraud:

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2...blame-sony.ars
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A. Sony is to blame for not letting customers know sooner.
B. Both Sony and the Hacker(s) are responsible for this mess. Thus they are both at fault.
(If you really need B explained then maybe you should try hacking and secure your network to the best of your ability and ask a "Skilled" hacker to hack it.)
C. Theirs no point in all these arguments over whose fault this is. BOTH sides are at fault. You need a hacker to break into a network. You need a network to break into. The source or end result of the issue is derived from how skilled the hacker is and/or how poor the network security is.

It is interesting to see the senators and homeland security take an interest in this. Besides just the customers personal data loss, I wonder if anything was on those servers containing information related to the network and setup the U.S. Air Force has with its Sony made super computer. Air Force Super Computer

As more of a personal opinion and semi off topic, All these posts repeating the same thing in altered words or the same are useless to the discussion of the thread. Someone should make an argument thread for this in the off topic so it can stop taking over every Sony thread. Posting factual information with your opinion is great. Posting something purely based on your opinion and having no relevance to the Threat Topic not so much. My 2 cents.

(Post not directed at any person specific.)
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Solid proof PSN credit cards are being used for fraud:

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2...blame-sony.ars
That is, in no way, close to "solid" proof.
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