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I've just ordered components to build a new computer and have a Thermaltake Bigwater kit that I had on a previous build of mine. I did not do the research as I should have previously and am looking for some advice from the PROS on this build.

In short, I currently have the following components:
- Thermaltake Level 10 GT Case
- Single Radiator TMG 1
- Dual Radiator TMG 2

I'm thinking about purchasing the following:

- Dual Bay Reservoir/Pump (XSPC X20 750 Dual)

OR

- Danger Den Pump/Reservoir (Monsoon)

- Heatkiller Rev 3.0 for CPU
- 3/8 " Tubing (PrimoChill PrimoFlex)

Any thoughts on these products? I'm rather set on the block but unsure on the pump/reservoir combo. I have the pump from the Thermaltake kit but want something with more power.
post #2 of 11
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My Goals:

Fit the two radiators inside the case. Ideally I'd like to have the dual radiator on the top of case as Thermaltake has shown on the site. The single radiator could then be put in a couple different locations but really have to see once the case comes in.

With having the dual radiator mounted on the top of the case where would I put my fill line/air bleeder? I would assume I could just put on the suction side of the pump and have the tube go high enough that the fluid would be above the radiator...This is the component I'm most confused about and want feedback on!
post #3 of 11
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Or I would be willing to mount a reservoir such as the following which would allow me to mount to side of case and have the water level a bit higher than the highest point of the radiator!?!

Danger Den RAD-Res

I'll let this stew a bit and stop posting If you want something drawn up to show my idea I would be glad to if it is not making sense.
post #4 of 11
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Link of idea:

post #5 of 11
1) Use the edit button.
2) Those radiators are garbage. You don't want aluminum mixed with copper in a loop.
3) Just use one reservoir. The XSPC X20 750 is great for a CPU-only loop.
4) If there are parts above the reservoir, you might need to tilt the case to get the air out of said parts.

And I know you said you're set on the Heatkiller block, but this kit would be a good purchase.
post #6 of 11
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Originally Posted by t-ramp View Post
1) Use the edit button.
2) Those radiators are garbage. You don't want aluminum mixed with copper in a loop.
3) Just use one reservoir. The XSPC X20 750 is great for a CPU-only loop.
4) If there are parts above the reservoir, you might need to tilt the case to get the air out of said parts.

And I know you said you're set on the Heatkiller block, but this kit would be a good purchase.
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Please don't bump your own thread until 24 hours of inactivity has passed. Also, use the 'Edit' button to add new information to a previous post instead of double triple quadruple-posting.
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post #7 of 11
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1) Use the edit button. - Sorry for quad post That is really ugly and should have thought through that.
2) Those radiators are garbage. You don't want aluminum mixed with copper in a loop. Enough said...I bought these when first released and think the pump/res are junk so you are not offending me here.
3) Just use one reservoir. The XSPC X20 750 is great for a CPU-only loop. Currently this is a CPU only loop but once I'm in gaming mode this fall I'd like to plan on going with 1/2 EVGA Hydro video cards.
4) If there are parts above the reservoir, you might need to tilt the case to get the air out of said parts. Would the added reservoir cause any problem? I'd think that the res would just provide more fluid and give me an easy bleed/refill without having to disturb case too much. For $40 it is worth the convenience.

I see that they have a triple radiator but really not sure that it would work in the top of the case. I've really got to get it together to see what I have to work with. In the interim I'm just going to be running the rig on air until I get the water in place
post #8 of 11
Firstly, welcome to OCN

Don't worry about the quad post, we all make mistakes. At least you know now. Have a quick read of this post for some good info on some other forum features, especially the system specs, multi-quote and rep system.


Moving on...

t-ramp is right about those radiators, all aluminum construction, very bad idea. When you mix aluminum with copper / nickle / brass then you will end up with Galvanic corrosion unless you run an anti corrosive fluid, which presents it's own problems. Better to avoid using aluminum in your loop altogether.

The hydro series cards are good, but you can get the same performance for less money if you get a normal reference card and a full cover water block for it. It does take a bit of balls to take the stock cooler off, invalidate your warranty and put the new waterblock on though, but it is (usually) quite easy.

I would avoid two reservoirs. They will cause problems with your flow and are not needed. You can run the res right at the bottom of your case, the only thing it needs to be above is the pump. There are plenty of examples of this, and it works fine.

What is your budget? The kit t-ramp linked is decent, and very good for the price. If you are planning on going for SLi / crossfire under water later then it might be worth looking at going custom now, could save you money in the long run.
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post #9 of 11
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Ideally I'd like to keep a budget of less than $300 but could go a little over that. I'd also like to keep the reservoir contained within the 5.25" bays so I can make use of the three spare drive bays. I'm open to any idea but want everything to be one piece so moving case is not a bear with detached radiators/etc. Overall I want to keep it very clean and open as possible as this will also serve as my media server for lots of storage. (Currently with hold 120GB SSD and RAID 5 of three 2 TB drives)

Shoot me ideas that you would have on this case and I'll continue to do some research determining what direction seems the best.

Lessons Learned:

- No Thermaltake water cooling!
- One reservoir

***After looking on eBay looks like I could get $100 out of the TT kit I had so that dampers the costs some here...
Edited by Dustin1300 - 4/28/11 at 9:52am
post #10 of 11
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After doing some further research on the pump/reservoir combo I don't like the idea....Lets say for now I want to get a system in place with a dual bay res, enough radiators to cool CPU and two GPUs...

- What brand of radiators? (One big, a dual and single, etc...)
- What pump has the best flow and lowest noise?
- Externally mount a res or put in drive bay?
- What fans have you found are quietest and push the most air?

Thanks again!
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