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Since I have had my system, it has been plagued with good days and bad days and as of lately, it has been bad days. When I first installed the OS I got CRC errors and blue screens during the installs. After moving the SATA cables around it fixed that long enough to install the OS. I re-attempted to install and it worked, so I ran the system at stock speeds for a while, the only addition I made was to bump the Ram voltage to 1.65 and kick it up to its rated speed, which is not the default setting. Worked fine.

I then oce'd to 3.6Ghz and had to bring my ram ratio down because of the increased FSB . Prime 24 hrs okay on a good day, not okay on a bad day. So I brought the clocks down to 3.5. Prime 24hrs good at 3.5Ghz/ 1466 ram. Then about 2 weeks ago I started getting the 0xc0000005 error every time I opened a game or any program, including chrome and Firefox that uses DirectX.
To resolve I have:
(aa)Updated my GPU Driver
(b)Removed one card to see if it was the SLI Power Draw on my borrowed Antec 650 Truepower, Same problems.
(c)Switched back to my known good RocketFish 550w. Same problems.
(a) brought clocks down to stock as a first step. fail.
1.reinstalled the OS and got the same issue.
2.I reinstalled the os on a new spin point 1tb, same problem.
3.I ran memtest from bootable usb, started getting errors within 10 min.
5.Move ram from black to blue channels. Fail
6. Tested one stick at a time - Fail.
4. Moved Ram to a different system, retested, did not get as many errors, but still got some errors after about 2 hours.
5. Replaced Ram with some, borrowed, know goods sticks, Better, but still crashing on game open.
6. Put in a dusty closet board 9800gt, same errors.

Now What? I am guessing it could be the NB, because I keep getting a Memory addressing issue. I have RMA'd The RAM and MotherBoard. And will send them off shortly, Is there anything else that could be the problem before I box the system up?
Edited by cook - 4/27/11 at 1:32pm
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What are your HT Link and CPU/NB clocks?
HT Link should be around 2000, CPU/NB can stay @ 2400(with FSB @ 240), but you have to raise your CPU/NB voltage
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have you tried removing the mobo heatsinks and re-pasting them with some decent stuff?
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It's the RAM dude. You've ran memtest (assuming at stock speeds?). Memtest pops up with errors. Your "known good RAM" is clearly no good if it's erroring out too in Memtest.

Make sure you're running Memtest at STOCK speeds according to AMD and / or the memory manufacturer. If your CPU only supports 1333 (which that's all the Athlon's support natively), and you've got the sticks at 1600, that could cause the problems.

Have you tried bumping your CPU-NB voltage up a notch or two?
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It's the RAM dude. You've ran memtest (assuming at stock speeds?). Memtest pops up with errors. Your "known good RAM" is clearly no good if it's erroring out too in Memtest.

Make sure you're running Memtest at STOCK speeds according to AMD and / or the memory manufacturer. If your CPU only supports 1333 (which that's all the Athlon's support natively), and you've got the sticks at 1600, that could cause the problems.

Have you tried bumping your CPU-NB voltage up a notch or two?
amd imc defaults to 1333, but can run faster without any issues

overclocking on a msi am3 board is most likely the issues
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amd imc defaults to 1333, but can run faster without any issues

overclocking on a msi am3 board is most likely the issues
His board isn't the issue. His board has nothing at all to do with the RAM, other than the fact that it holds it. And you can't say that the RAM can run faster than 1333 without issue. Just because YOURS does, doesn't mean that every single chip is the same.
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i didnt say anything about the ram, just that the memory controller on the cpu can handle 1600+ speeds

msi boards are known to use cheap mosfets/vrm's

if he has 1600 and set the voltage and timings to the ram specs, it should work
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i didnt say anything about the ram, just that the memory controller on the cpu can handle 1600+ speeds

msi boards are known to use cheap mosfets/vrm's

if he has 1600 and set the voltage and timings to the ram specs, it should work
He could still require a bump in CPU-NB volts too, to get 1600.
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Okay my NB and HT have been at 1920. I have bumped up the voltage to 1.36 on the NB, and the other NB setting I left alone. In CPU-Z it reads that My HT is at ~2300 while the bios says 1920.

Is this 160.00 MSI board truly just crap? I would hope that it would not be. When I first got the thing I noticed what looked like swirl or shrink tears in the black pcb coating around the edges, almost as if it cured too quickly. But no metal was showing it just showed a strange texture.

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It's the RAM dude. You've ran memtest (assuming at stock speeds?). Memtest pops up with errors. Your "known good RAM" is clearly no good if it's erroring out too in Memtest.

Make sure you're running Memtest at STOCK speeds according to AMD and / or the memory manufacturer. If your CPU only supports 1333 (which that's all the Athlon's support natively), and you've got the sticks at 1600, that could cause the problems.

Have you tried bumping your CPU-NB voltage up a notch or two?
RMA'ed the Ram to Corsair. I have some new stuff coming in as well, I may sell the RMA'ed Ram and pick up a phenom II, I just wanted to wait until bulldozer to purchase a new cpu.

What is a safe CPU-NB voltage, what is the max? Mine starts at like 1.1 and will go up to 1.4 or 1.5. They all turn red after 1.21 so I am really not sure where that should be.

Crap, Athlon for the loss again. Why the heck don't they support faster ram.

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have you tried removing the mobo heatsinks and re-pasting them with some decent stuff?
What would you suggest?
Edited by cook - 4/27/11 at 6:32pm
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