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So I have the following setup

Logitech Z-2300
Creative X-Fi Titanium HD sound card
Sennheiser PC 360

Now my sound card is notoriously known for turning off the RCA (aka the speakers) when the headphone is plugged in. And most users will keep both their speakers and headphones plugged in at the same time...but with this particular sound card, if both are plugged in, you only get headphone sound, no speakers.

This is confirmed over at the creative forums, and creative says they can't make a driver to fix this issue. Its hardware related. So now the following question is. Can I run a 3.5mm y splitter and not get any performance degrading? Also which would be best to use the y splitter. From the RCA or the 3.5mm headphone jack?

Thanks in advanced!
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Yep, that is a dumb design decision on Creative's part. Asus actually has manual switching to go from speakers to headphones with their Essence STX so that is what I use for my speakers much of the time.

You may notice a volume reduction when using a Y-splitter but it shouldn't degrade audio quality substantially. The problem when you use that is that once you want to use your headphones, you have to turn off your speakers every time which could be a hassle.
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will speaking in general..........yes slight signal fade if both are plug-in but barely noticeable

(looking at you sound system) the input impedances are quite high in newer gear so there should be no audible loss of signal amplitude.....hopefully biggrin.gif
but make sure that the Y splitter has high build quality

Just one more thing, make sure to remove the head phone when not in use because increasing the volume while the headphone still plug-in might damage the diaphragm
    
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with my Titanium HD i'm currently using a 3.5mm Y-splitter that i picked up at radioshack for $5. absolutely no signal quality degradation can be heard through my HD280 PRO headphones or my 2.1 PC speakers, which are hooked up simultaneously. go get a Y-splitter and don't look back. if you were attempting to power two sets of 250 ohm headphones simultaneously, my suggestion would be different.
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post #5 of 11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RallyMaster;13294318 
Yep, that is a dumb design decision on Creative's part. Asus actually has manual switching to go from speakers to headphones with their Essence STX so that is what I use for my speakers much of the time.

You may notice a volume reduction when using a Y-splitter but it shouldn't degrade audio quality substantially. The problem when you use that is that once you want to use your headphones, you have to turn off your speakers every time which could be a hassle.

To me, this isn't a probelm, as my z-2300 switch is right behind my keyboard. I always turn it off when it's not in use. So if I'm gaming with my headset, I always turn it off no matter what
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Porter_;13297183 
with my Titanium HD i'm currently using a 3.5mm Y-splitter that i picked up at radioshack for $5. absolutely no signal quality degradation can be heard through my HD280 PRO headphones or my 2.1 PC speakers, which are hooked up simultaneously. go get a Y-splitter and don't look back. if you were attempting to power two sets of 250 ohm headphones simultaneously, my suggestion would be different.

why would your suggestion be different?

Also, where did you use your y splitter? Through the RCA or the 3.5mm headphone jack?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steven88;13297822 
why would your suggestion be different?

Also, where did you use your y splitter? Through the RCA or the 3.5mm headphone jack?

i don't believe the Titanium HD could simultaneously power two devices with that much resistance. my guess is that the volume level would be so low, it would practically be inaudible. i have this 1/8" Stereo Y-Adapter, so i have it plugged into my headphone jack.

edit: the radioshack cable i linked above is surprisingly good quality, but if you don't have a radioshack near you you can pick up one from MonoPrice here: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10218&cs_id=1021802&p_id=667&seq=1&format=2. MonoPrice has quality cables.
Edited by Porter_ - 4/27/11 at 5:34pm
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Originally Posted by Porter_;13298334 
i don't believe the Titanium HD could simultaneously power two devices with that much resistance. my guess is that the volume level would be so low, it would practically be inaudible. i have this 1/8" Stereo Y-Adapter, so i have it plugged into my headphone jack.

edit: the radioshack cable i linked above is surprisingly good quality, but if you don't have a radioshack near you you can pick up one from MonoPrice here: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10218&cs_id=1021802&p_id=667&seq=1&format=2. MonoPrice has quality cables.

I see I see....so basically, if I have a y splitter on the headphone jack 3.5mm....and if I connect two Sennheiser PC 360's onto the Y, then it would get all messed up? But if I connected one Sennheiser PC 360, and the other Logitech Z-2300 speakers, since the Z-2300 has an amplifier already in it, it should compensate for the loss at the split?
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post #9 of 11
the claim by Creative is that the Titanium HD is capable of powering 330 ohm headphones. in theory, how you break that down is up to you. regardless you should be fine connecting your PC360 and Z-2300 through a y-cable.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steven88;13302751 
I see I see....so basically, if I have a y splitter on the headphone jack 3.5mm....and if I connect two Sennheiser PC 360's onto the Y, then it would get all messed up? But if I connected one Sennheiser PC 360, and the other Logitech Z-2300 speakers, since the Z-2300 has an amplifier already in it, it should compensate for the loss at the split?

Sorry to revive this thread, but since you have the exact same speakers, sound card, and gaming headset that I am planning to buy, may I please ask how this splitter worked for you?
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