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What a retard. Bet he just wants to get some cash. Damn fool he doesn't even know how well PSN was protected. It withstood a lot of attacks lately and they even shut it down completely because they know how serious the situation is. It just disgusts me to see some 36 year old man, that may be unemployed and looking for some free cash. Come on, he can't even spell his own name correctly. I REALLY hope Sony wins this time (for the first time ever)
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I love that we have members, even moderators, that pity Sony when they are being "kicked to the ground" by everyday people who may or may not have had their identities stolen likely due to security flaws. Yet, when Sony is going all out and kicking the snot out of people like Geohotz--people who barely have the funds to support themselves against a giant corporation--it's no big deal on Sony's part.

I might hate Geohotz and Sony, but I can't help but see the irony in all of this.
Edited by jivenjune - 4/28/11 at 12:45pm
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I cannot believe the number of people here giving the guy a hard time. I agree with the poster earlier who said that anyone who trivializes the scope of this is living at home with their parents. By the way, if the information was not stored correctly Sony broke the law.

Do people know how easy it is for someone to steal your identity with the information that PSN stored? It takes years to recover from identity theft.
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Originally Posted by Gheris View Post
I cannot believe the number of people here giving the guy a hard time. I agree with the poster earlier who said that anyone who trivializes the scope of this is living at home with their parents. By the way, if the information was not stored correctly Sony broke the law.

Do people know how easy it is for someone to steal your identity with the information that PSN stored? It takes years to recover from identity theft.
1. Sony did have the CC information encrypted along with not having the CVV number at all.

2. The law suite is asking for damages (i.e. money) when there has been no evidence that this guy was financially impacted. You file a suite for them to provide credit protection, or repair services at this point. Not that and for $$$$
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people have had their credit cards stolen and have lost money, if he lost money he has every right to sue.
Source?

Claims are the c-card info was secure
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Really, suing someone over such petty things is so lame. Oh dear, the PSN has been offline for a bit, go outside mate, read a book or something. I'm sure he was just like everyone else and didn't really give a crap. It's a week or so in the grand scheme of things that is nothing.
I really hope you're kidding. No one cares that PSN is down for a while. Or at least that's not what the lawsuit is about...

I got an email from Playstation today telling me to call the major credit bureaus and notify them that there may be fraud coming on my SSN and to put special protections to opening credit with my information. That's serious. And its seriously messed up that a giant company is that careless with soo much sensitive personal data.

"Kick Sony while its down"???? Are you fricken kidding me. I (and thousands of others) have to take extreme precautions making it harder for MYSELF to open credit in my own name in an attempt to protect myself from fraud... and you're worried about Sony? Screw Sony. They didn't have enough security in place and now I'm affected. I hope they get sued royally, and I hope its a class action lawsuit. And I hope they are held liable for any identify theft that occurs and are forced to reimburse any costs or damages associated with it.

Saying "poor sony" is like saying "poor BP" when the oil spill happened. If you don't protect what it is you do, and your poor protection leads to others getting hurt, you deserve to be held accountable for that. My personal information is out there now, including billing addresses, emails addresses, and according to Sony's email, probably credit cards ("but they can't be sure"... right).

I'm happy he sued so I didn't have to. But I'm looking into it anyways.

EDIT: It doesn't even completely matter whether of not someone is financially affected. Now I KNOW that my name, address, email, credit card info is all out there, able to be used, misused, sold, etc. It sucks, it shouldn't have happened, and to say "poor sony" is to say "haha you're primed for ID theft" to the victims.
Edited by RomeSC - 4/28/11 at 1:34pm
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I really hope you're kidding. No one cares that PSN is down for a while. Or at least that's not what the lawsuit is about...

I got an email from Playstation today telling me to call the major credit bureaus and notify them that there may be fraud coming on my SSN and to put special protections to opening credit with my information. That's serious. And its seriously messed up that a giant company is that careless with soo much sensitive personal data.

"Kick Sony while its down"???? Are you fricken kidding me. I (and thousands of others) have to take extreme precautions making it harder for MYSELF to open credit in my own name in an attempt to protect myself from fraud... and you're worried about Sony? Screw Sony. They didn't have enough security in place and now I'm affected. I hope they get sued royally, and I hope its a class action lawsuit. And I hope they are held liable for any identify theft that occurs and are forced to reimburse any costs or damages associated with it.

Saying "poor sony" is like saying "poor BP" when the oil spill happened. If you don't protect what it is you do, and your poor protection leads to others getting hurt, you deserve to be held accountable for that. My personal information is out there now, including billing addresses, emails addresses, and according to Sony's email, probably credit cards ("but they can't be sure"... right).

I'm happy he sued so I didn't have to. But I'm looking into it anyways.

EDIT: It doesn't even completely matter whether of not someone is financially affected. Now I KNOW that my name, address, email, credit card info is all out there, able to be used, misused, sold, etc. It sucks, it shouldn't have happened, and to say "poor sony" is to say "haha you're primed for ID theft" to the victims.
I find it funny how you seem to think, like alot of people recently it seems, like this is the first time this has happened and that.. "Sony didn't have enough security."
You don't know that! Stop thinking like you do! Where is your evidence of this? Just because it happened means nothing, as this can happen to any major company at any given time. There is ALWAYS an exploit somewhere.


You also act like this is the first time this has ever happened to customer information being breached.
Have you been around for the past 3 months or so?
All of the customer data in Epsilon was breached. Do you know who Epsilon is? They are a company which sends 40 billion emails annually on behalf of more than 2,500 clients. By clients, they mean companies such as:
• Kroger

• TiVo

• US Bank

• JPMorgan Chase

• Capital One

• Citi

• Home Shopping Network (HSN) (added 4/3 @10:22am)

• Ameriprise Financial

• LL Bean Visa Card

• Lacoste

• AbeBooks

• Hilton Honors Program

• Dillons

• Fred Meyer

• Beachbody (Makers of TRX)

• TD Ameritrade

• Ethan Allen

• Eileen Fisher

• MoneyGram

• TIAA-CREF

• Verizon

• Marks & Spencer (UK)

• City Market

• Smith Brands


• McKinsey & Company

• Ritz-Carlton Rewards

• Marriott Rewards

• New York & Company

• Brookstone

• Walgreens (Again!)

• The College Board (added 4/3 @8:20am)

• Disney Destinations

• Best Buy

• Robert Half

• Target

• QFC

• bebe Stores

• Ralphs

• Fry's

• 1-800-Flowers

• Red Roof Inn

• King Soopers

• Air Miles

• Eddie Bauer

• Scottrade

• Dell Australia

• Jay C

While only a "subset" of information was breached, they were JUST like Sony. They have no idea what info was taken or whom's info was taken. The only thing they do no was that no CC info was taken. Anything from names, emails, and yes - billing addresses in some cases too could have been taken.
Look at some of those "clients". We're talking actual banks and companies like Disney. Yet you sit here and act like this is the first security breach of information ever and that "this is all Sony's fault" and "how they should be sued". If a massive information sensitive company like Epsilon, that holds info for MILLIONS of different kinds of consumers, and they get breached. Wake up call - anyone can be breached.

And then you compare Sony to BP. Are you serious? CorkyFan said the same exact thing.
How can you even possibly compare BP, who was drilling oil in the ocean, and had a massive rig explosion that killed people. The following result was an oil spill that killed alot of animals and endangered the entire damn ocean eco-system in that area and then some. Still has effects even to this day.
Yet, here you are sitting here trying to compare an information breach, of which is nothing compared to Epsilon, to a WAY more serious accident that killed people and animals.
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Personal opinions regarding Sony are completely irrelevant in this.

It's Sony's responsibility to safeguard the personal information they are given. Obviously they failed to do this, which raises the question "were their precautions reasonable?".

If not, they owe people some money for the trouble they have, or may, go through to get all this rectified.

True, no security is perfect, but given the scope of this breach, it certainly brings Sony's practices into question.
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It's Sony's responsibility to safeguard the personal information they are given. Obviously they failed to do this, which raises the question "were their precautions reasonable?".
Answer: Since every PS3 could access the data and credit cards, no, Sony's precautions, or lack thereof because there were none, were not reasonable. It's laughable someone could change 1 bit on their console and then access the private network and download 77 million accounts and credit cards rofl. Sony is so dumb.
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ID Theft is a billion-dollar industry. companies, especially financial institutions, spend major $$$ to protect customer/client personal information. its their responsibility. a giant like sony is no exception. either they were careless or their security measures weren't good enough. or both. if some cheapshot 36-year old takes advantage of it and sues them for every penny possible then sorry but that's one of the consequences. even if it's an honest mistake on sony's part there's still a price to pay.
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