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post #11 of 25
At stock, a 2600k is faster than your 950 just because of the better architecture. The difference in X58 and a good P67 setup is pretty noticeable in synthetics. With prices like they are, since your stuff still has value it wouldn't be a bad idea to try and jump to something new while you can. Though, if you're 100% content with what you have, there isn't much of a reason to change anything I suppose. Just grab an SSD and a WC loop and a GPU block and you should be set.
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post #12 of 25
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I'm open to the idea of SB. It just seems like it's a lot more trouble than the upgrade would be worth. If I had unlimited budget I'd probably do it. But I am just a college student. This $500 upgrade is even not 100%. Although it is 90% going to happen. Been wanting an SSD and WC for a while.
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post #13 of 25
telling him to go to SB from x58 is ridiculous. the retail price - resale price cost hit of 30-40% is not worth it to pay retail for replacement parts that offer a 10-30% peformance increase, and that's if the performance increase is actually realized in everyday computing. like OP stated, with the exceptions of heavy computing tasks like encoding, there will be no discernable difference in everyday computing, not even in gaming.

however, given that your storage speed is the limiting factor in any task that involves reading/writing (everything), an SSD will give you great practical performance increases in almost everything you do. you're looking at 1000x faster access times, probably 2-5x read and write speeds, and consistent performance across the whole drive.

as for the WC, it's really not cost effective. you may be able to get 10% more OC, maybe even 20%, than you would with quality air cooling, but the cost and risk of damage is prohibitive for increasing the speed by that small of a margin of something that already doesn't negatively affect your computing experience. also, the resale value of your WC stuff will be exceptionally poor.

i would get a very nice SSD and a very nice air cooling setup, complete with good fans and a fan controller. if you insist on WC, make the 6990 the first priority as it makes more heat than your CPU.
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post #14 of 25
also, another reason to WC the 6990 first: if the heaviest computing you do is gaming, a GPU OC of 25% will crush a CPU OC of 25% in terms of benefit gained (which would be measured by FPS increases in your favorite games)
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post #15 of 25
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Originally Posted by derickwm View Post
Ok...so even after stating I have no interest in SB, I still get suggestions. In complete seriousness, other than being able to achieve a higher OC much easier, what is the advantage of getting SB over my current 950? What is so much faster/better? And what would actually completely utilize that? I don't do HD video editing, and the 950 even at stock seems good for games. With watercooling I should be able to achieve a pretty good OC.
I would be selling the 950 because it is still worth good money used. You can get a sb setup and still have money left over for a ssd afterwards. There is nothing wrong with your 950 but as ivy bridge etc is just around the corner it is a good idea to sell your current setup before it becomes too old and is worth less used.

Killing two birds with one stone that's all . Unless you want to wait a year or two and spend $$$$ for a new rig ??
Edited by Chewy - 4/28/11 at 9:54am
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You might look into a Vertex 3 240gb SSD, it runs about $550 on newegg, but the sequential read and write is fantastic, 550MB/s and 525 MB/s respectively.

OOS Newegg link
Revo Drive if you really want to splurge. Otherwise I agree with the poster who said to go for the 240. I would love to bump to 240, and I'd use every bit.
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also, another reason to WC the 6990 first: if the heaviest computing you do is gaming, a GPU OC of 25% will crush a CPU OC of 25% in terms of benefit gained (which would be measured by FPS increases in your favorite games)
Thank you for your first lengthy post. I'd rather go with WC than air cooling because there isn't a whole lot I can do to cool the 6990 on air...and I have an 800D which is notorious for bad air circulating. WC has always been like a "dream" to me ever since I saw the first huge external rads. I definitely want to get the 6990 under water asap, just the $100+ waterblocks are so expensive...

How much work is involved adding another component to a loop? Like if I just did the CPU for a lil bit then when more cash came around I could add a WB for the 6990.

Quote:
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I would be selling the 950 because it is still worth good money used. You can get a sb setup and still have money left over for a ssd afterwards. There is nothing wrong with your 950 but as ivy bridge etc is just around the corner it is a good idea to sell your current setup before it becomes too old and is worth less used.

Killing two birds with one stone that's all . Unless you want to wait a year or two and spend $$$$ for a new rig ??
That would make sense...but if you think about it in the aspect of, say I lost $50 upgrading to SB, then when IB comes out I might lose another $50. At the same time if I skipped SB and went straight to IB, then I would lose ~$100. Those aren't real numbers..I'd probably lose more for both situations, it just adds more work switching twice.

Plus I kind of like having this much RAM even if its near useless, the e-peen when mentioning I have 24gigs of RAM to somebody is just lovely (:

Rep added to helpful posts. Thanks guys.
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Thank you for your first lengthy post. I'd rather go with WC than air cooling because there isn't a whole lot I can do to cool the 6990 on air...and I have an 800D which is notorious for bad air circulating. WC has always been like a "dream" to me ever since I saw the first huge external rads. I definitely want to get the 6990 under water asap, just the $100+ waterblocks are so expensive...

How much work is involved adding another component to a loop? Like if I just did the CPU for a lil bit then when more cash came around I could add a WB for the 6990.



That would make sense...but if you think about it in the aspect of, say I lost $50 upgrading to SB, then when IB comes out I might lose another $50. At the same time if I skipped SB and went straight to IB, then I would lose ~$100. Those aren't real numbers..I'd probably lose more for both situations, it just adds more work switching twice.

Plus I kind of like having this much RAM even if its near useless, the e-peen when mentioning I have 24gigs of RAM to somebody is just lovely (:

Rep added to helpful posts. Thanks guys.
I see your point, Aslong As your happy and your rig does what you need it to do then that's all that matters. I would def agree on an ssd upgrade and get the 6990 under water
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Although it has been mentioned, I would also suggest bumping to Sandy. I would however wait until the Z68 boards are release so you can take full advantage of the SSD caching.
As for your scenario of losing $50 then another $50 to have a $100 loss, I think it will come out in the wash. As waiting completely until Ivy you could lose $100 or more then. We already know first Ivy will work on 1155 socket so you will not have the loss of the mobo. Also the other advantages of Sandy/Ivy now would be faster SSD unless your dumping your X58 Sabertooth for a G1 Assassin so you can get the new Marvell SATA III controllers, which results again in a loss.

There is nothing saying you can't utilize the same RAM you already have, Sandy boards will support up to 32GB, it's just double channel not triple. So if your using 6 sticks you will not utilize 2 of your current.

Even with your 800D and a hyper 212+ hsf I would guess you could run at 4.5Ghz with no problems, whereas you are at 3.06 now.
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anyone who advocates going to SB from x58 right now is setting money on fire
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