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come to KY and sure. You can be the guinea pig to see what needs to happen to make it streetable as my daily driver during the warm months.
No problem, i live in Georgetown
    
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Looks really good! Knowing the way you drive I hope you plan on giving it monster brakes. I would hate to find your lifeless corpse in a ditch on Vince Rd.
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i ve been watching ths thread for a long time now and its amazing...!!!

I have 2 questions though...

a. Isnt it safer to use 7/16id-5/8od tubes over 1/2'' barbs as stated here by Martin?
http://martinsliquidlab.org/2011/01/...acts/#comments


b. What is the TIM you intend to use?


Thanks!
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i ve been watching ths thread for a long time now and its amazing...!!!

I have 2 questions though...

a. Isnt it safer to use 7/16id-5/8od tubes over 1/2'' barbs as stated here by Martin?
http://martinsliquidlab.org/2011/01/...acts/#comments


b. What is the TIM you intend to use?


Thanks!
A) I'm concerned more about float rate than anything else since the loop will be extremely restrictive. In my current build I use 3/8id 1/2od and have never had a problem. The pumps simply aren't strong enough to collapse the tubing or pop it off of the fitting unless I went with 8 or more on the loop due to the loop's restriction.


B) not sure yet, but probably shin etsu since it's not conductive and does a rather great job
 
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A) I'm concerned more about float rate than anything else since the loop will be extremely restrictive. In my current build I use 3/8id 1/2od and have never had a problem. The pumps simply aren't strong enough to collapse the tubing or pop it off of the fitting unless I went with 8 or more on the loop due to the loop's restriction.


B) not sure yet, but probably shin etsu since it's not conductive and does a rather great job
A. Good point, but since you are not going to use any hose clamps (safe but ugly) isnt it a little bit unsafe to use 1/2" compression fittings with 1/2"id tubes ... just wondering?! I think this is the size you intend to use, correct? 1/2" fittings with 1/2"id tubes...

Do you have any idea if/how much more restrictive is 7/16id vs 1/2id?


B. Well, i am between prolimatech pk1 and sin etsu as well... Still, i saw that one of prolimatech ingredients is Aluminum, so i dont know how well this will 'cooperate' with the copper bottom of the waterblocks. Also, I have no idea about sin etsu ingredients ... is it based on aluminum as well?


...very nice job!!!
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A. Good point, but since you are not going to use any hose clamps (safe but ugly) isnt it a little bit unsafe to use 1/2" compression fittings with 1/2"id tubes ... just wondering?! I think this is the size you intend to use, correct? 1/2" fittings with 1/2"id tubes...

Do you have any idea if/how much more restrictive is 7/16id vs 1/2id?


B. Well, i am between prolimatech pk1 and sin etsu as well... Still, i saw that one of prolimatech ingredients is Aluminum, so i dont know how well this will 'cooperate' with the copper bottom of the waterblocks. Also, I have no idea about sin etsu ingredients ... is it based on aluminum as well?


...very nice job!!!
With compression fittings you want the Id and od to match exactly, smaller Id will create problems. There isn't much difference in flowrate, but being as restrictive as it's going to be it'll be exaggerated. Im not using copper based blocks (silver and nickel) so I'm not worried about their cooperation. I'll have to look and see what it's based off of, but since it's nonconductive it's probably not aluminum based
 
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A. Good point, but since you are not going to use any hose clamps (safe but ugly) isnt it a little bit unsafe to use 1/2" compression fittings with 1/2"id tubes ... just wondering?! I think this is the size you intend to use, correct? 1/2" fittings with 1/2"id tubes...
You're a bit misleading with your last few questions EG- 7/16 ID over 1/2" BARBS, is a good idea, I run that clampless, but I would never run 1/2" ID over 1/2" barbs clampless.

Difference is that FIS is using compressions, which lock the tubing in place, so you don't need clamps and the tubing will not pull out of the fitting. As FIS said, compressions only work with exactly matched ID/OD on the fitting and tubing. Otherwise the tolerances are thrown off and you don't get the tight seal that you want.

Stallion, I think it's time for more pics
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You're a bit misleading with your last few questions EG- 7/16 ID over 1/2" BARBS, is a good idea, I run that clampless, but I would never run 1/2" ID over 1/2" barbs clampless.

Difference is that FIS is using compressions, which lock the tubing in place, so you don't need clamps and the tubing will not pull out of the fitting. As FIS said, compressions only work with exactly matched ID/OD on the fitting and tubing. Otherwise the tolerances are thrown off and you don't get the tight seal that you want.

Stallion, I think it's time for more pics
Sorry if i was misleading!

I would actually like to compare the safety between:
a. 7/16 id tubes on 1/2 barbs + clamps (my setup)
b. 1/2id tubes on 1/2 compression fittings

in case b as you correctly say, the id and od have to be specific (wall thickness matters) and be based on the comp. fittings specs, but still from what i have read option a is more safe, but a little bit more 'ugly' if worm clamps are to be used.

So, my point on all that was, that option a is safer than option b. I do not know if compression fittings (option b) can guarantee the safety of 7/16 and clamps (option a).

Of course, appearance and performance are better using option b...
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Clamps and 7/16 on 1/2 are safer, but if u can't get by with compressions u must be using super powerful pumps not meant for pc water-cooling
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2x Hardware Labs Black Ice GTX 280 Hardware Labs Black Ice GTX 480 Dual Uber MCP655 Noiseblocker PK-3  
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Bitspower Compression Fittings Lamptron FC-8 Noiseblocker PL-2 Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit 
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Asus PB287Q 4K Steelseries 7G Custum wired EVGA NEX 1500 Caselabs SMA8 
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Rat 7 Razer Goliathus XL 
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i7 920 c0 @ 4.2 Ghz w/ 1.4v max 4.6ghz @1.55v w... Asus P6T6 WS Revolution w/ koolance nb/sb+mosfe... EVGA GTX 480 x3 w/ Koolance Vid-NX480 12gb Corsair Dominator 1600mhz w/ MIPS Ramcooler 6 
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1.5 Tb Seagate barracuda x3 LG Bluray Burner 2x SR1 360, RX 360, SR1 240, SR1 120, 2x MCP355... Win 7 Ultimate 64bit 
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Samsung t260 x3 Razer Black Widow Ultimate Silverstone st1200 Mountain Mods U2UFO w/ MM Pedestal Addition 
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Razer Mamba Razer Destructor X-Fi Fata1ity Logitech Z-5500 
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i7 3840QM 650ti 8GB 1333mhz DDR3 256gb ssd 
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OSX Mountain Lion Retina Display 85w Magsafe Power Adapter Aluminum Unibody 
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