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#1 · (Edited)
It's been a little over a year since I began this build so I figure it's time to breath some new and intense life into this beast. This time there will be no holding back. I've dabbled in my other hobbies over the last 6 months or so since completion, but have grown to realize this rig isn't extreme at all, so I have to change that. In the process of building a parts list for the new update Be ready, be excited, it's going down.


This OP will be edited as the build progresses with current pics and comments.

I'm currently in the process of designing a new build that will be completed once Kepler and Ivy bridge are released (I will not rule out quadfire AMD, but since AMD cards are inferior for folding I will most likely not purchase them until they yield equal or better performance for that application). In the mean time I have to get together the case and all of the watercooling components so it can be together ASAP. I'm looking to build something that will blow my current rig out of the water in terms of cooling and potential cooling ability and raw performance. I'll begin collecting components starting this week and will post updates regularly. I am attempting to design an optimal cooling setup for a rig with an intel extreme edition and 4 way sli. This setup will be run 24/7 for folding@home just like my sig rig with occasional gaming thrown in when I have time between law school classes. I know there are a fair bit of you who are familiar with my last build, you will not be disappointed with this one. I promise it'll make Project Atlantis look like a dell budget box.

I'm through playing around with watercooling. I really want to see how much potential it really has as a cooling method. I'm aiming for a consistent 2C or lower water/air delta over both loops. I will attempt to change fans as necessary to achieve this. TDP of the system will be limited to 1600 watts (the peak of the silverstone ST1500 psu). Should have no problem supplying the power for it since it will be running off a 220v connection. My current setup is great and performs awesome, but I'm looking for something better, something that boutique pc makers wouldn't dare build. I'm hoping to make it the epitome of what OCN water-cooling section stands for.

Water Temps: Running 1.3C water/air delta at idle and 2.1C at 100% load w/ 4.8ghz and mild GPU overclock

All comments and suggestions are welcome. I will attempt to do OCN proud.
If you don't like overkill then you're in the wrong thread and this is what I think of you!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37636166@N04/5420100933/

All parts are ones that I have worked with before in some manner and have earned the fat_italian_stallion seal of approval
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37636166@N04/5664819508/


Current Pics




Latest Danger Den Case Picks Before Rebuild (Click to show)


Rebuild Parts List and Progress (Click to show)Rebuild Parts List
Loop 1 Components (prices from frozencpu)
[*] Bitspower Dual / Single D5 Top Upgrade Kit 250 (54.99)



[*] 2x MCP 655 Vario (119.95) = 239.90
[*] Bitspower Dual Top (99.99)
[*] 2x Bitspower Dressup kits (49.95) = 99.90
[*] EK Supremacy (72.99)
[*] EK RIVE Blocks (109.95)
[*] 2x EK Monarch Series X4 Ram Liquid Cooling Block Replacement Top (14.95) = 29.90
[*] 2x EK Monarch Series X4 Ram Liquid Cooling Block (50.99) = 101.98
[*] HW Labs GTX 560 (184.99)
[*] 8x Noiseblocker PK-3 (24.95) = 199.60
[*] 20x Bitspower Rotary Fittings w/ assorted Quick Disconnect Pairs(~10-24)
[*] Primochill Rigid Acrylic Tube




Total Without Fittings: $1,193.19


Loop 2 Components
[*] Bitspower Dual / Single D5 Top Upgrade Kit 250 (54.99)



[*] 2x MCP 655 Vario (119.95) = 239.90
[*] Bitspower Dual Top (99.99)
[*] 2x Bitspower Dressup kits (49.95) = 99.90
[*] 4x EK FC Titan (94.99) = 379.96
[*] EK FC Quad Bridge (32.99)
[*] 2x HW Labs GTX 560 (184.99) = 369.98
[*] 16x Noiseblocker PK-3 (24.95) = 399.20
[*] 8x Bitspower Rotary Fittings w/ assorted Quick Disconnect Pairs
[*] Primochill Rigid Acrylic Tube




Total Without Fittings: $1,673.91

Additional Components (not sure which loop to add to)
  • 4x HW Labs GTX 360 (119.95) = 479.8
  • 26x Noiseblocker PLPS (20.95) = 544.70-
  • HW Labs GTX 480 (147.95)
  • 8x Bitspower Rotary Fittings
Total Without Fittings: $1,172.45
Titan Setup (Click to show)Titan setup. Still some work to be done with lighting and cables.






690 Setup (Click to show)690 Setup




480 Setup (Click to show)480 Setup







Benchmarks (Click to show)Benchmarks

Fastest in the U.S.
Gotta love early adoption.



3dmark11 P:


3dMark11 P Hall of Fame



3dmark11 X:


3dMark11 X Hall of Fame



Run at 4.5 w/ +160core / +130 mem


SSD Bench




Original Parts List (Click to show)Parts:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37636166@N04/6004405148/

Parts will be crossed out once ordered and starred once acquired

*Case: Danger Den Tower 29 (Nightmare Black Color Scheme and 2x single 5.25 bay cutouts.)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37636166@N04/5784091698/

*Feet: 4x MNPC Tech Black Billet Aluminum Case Feet
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37636166@N04/5777444831/

*Fan Controller: Lamptron FC-8

http://www.flickr.com/photos/37636166@N04/5843047956/

*Radiators: 6x Hardware Labs Black Ice GTX 560 Radiator, 2x Black Ice GTX 280 Radiator, 1x Black Ice GTX 140

http://www.flickr.com/photos/37636166@N04/6004406296/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/37636166@N04/6004406776/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/37636166@N04/6003861679/

*Pumps: 2x MCP 655
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37636166@N04/5777446949/

*Pump Dressup kit: 2x Bitspower Matte Black D5 dress up kit
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37636166@N04/5777447999/

*Pumptop: Bitspower dual top
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37636166@N04/5742575975/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37636166@N04/5742562091/

*Fans: 32x 140mm Noiseblocker pk-3 1700 rpm fan

http://www.flickr.com/photos/37636166@N04/5790473179/

*Tubing: PrimoFlex Pro LRT Black Tubing -1/2in. ID X 3/4in. OD
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37636166@N04/5728017191/

*Reservoir: Phobya Balancer 450
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37636166@N04/5743127580/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37636166@N04/5742562703/

*PSU: Silverstone Strider ST1500
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37636166@N04/5689957251/

Sleeving: MDPC sleeving


Fan Cables: 6x Phobya Y-Cable 3Pin Molex to 4x 3Pin Molex 60cm - Black, 2x Phobya Y-Cable 3Pin Molex to 6x 3Pin Molex 60cm - Black


*Bluray Burner: Plextor B940SA
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37636166@N04/5991107169/

*Fittings: Bitspower 1/2" ID 3/4" OD Rotary Compression Fittings
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37636166@N04/6006947391/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/37636166@N04/6006955849/

HDD: 4x Western Digital 2TB Black Sata 6.0 and 4x Western Digital 2TB Green Sata 6.0

Monitors: 6x HP ZR2740W


Monitor Stand: Ergotech Hex 3 over 3


Processor: Intel 3960X Extreme Edition


Motherboard: Asus Rampage IV Extreme


Memory: 32GB Gskill Ripjaw Z 2133Mhz
 
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#7 ·
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spykerv;13301028
Look at the Xigamatek Crystal series, around 20dba, 70+ cfm.
Although possibly I'll look at the noctuas. I was only looking at the egg, I'll check out frozen, jab an performance pcs in a bit
Thanks for looking. I'm trying to stick with an all black theme if that helps look for fans. I'm more than willing to pain though if need be.
 
#11 ·
Quote:
Originally Posted by fat_italian_stallion;13301059
Thanks for looking. I'm trying to stick with an all black theme if that helps look for fans. I'm more than willing to pain though if need be.
I'm slightly curious as to why you chose 140s instead of 120s? But never mind that, I'll find some fans for you. Emphasis on silence I presume based on your current MM? also another curious question, why did you choose the U2UFO over the ascension? I like both (in fact was deciding between a crystal ship u2ufo (well technically a custom one) or the monticle 24 cyo, but decided to stick to open air and buy a tablet instead.

http://www.jab-tech.com/140mm-Fans-c-282.html

Personally I'd go with the Yates for their 140cfm and I know you'll have fan controllers and noise blocking foam, this or the Noctuas which would require painting.
 
#12 ·
I wish you would keep everything white, would kinda work with the WC and the "cold" feel to it. Anyway, I cannot wait to see the finished product.
 
#13 ·
Personally I'm a delta fan boy, always will be

http://www.delta.com.tw/product/cp/dcfans/download/pdf/FFB/FFB140x140x38mm.pdf

Make sure to have the fan controller to output 2 Amps per channel if you get this bad boy.

http://www.delta.com.tw/product/cp/dcfans/dcfans_prod_sch.asp?act=sch_rsl&tp=co&fantp=&size=140x140&th=&vol=

These are all of deltas 140mm, and i sent you the best for the standard 38mm depth as opposed to 50mm, so I'd personally just stick to the 38s.

You're an extreme guy, you need extreme fans. Derp
 
#14 ·
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spykerv;13301124
I'm slightly curious as to why you chose 140s instead of 120s? But never mind that, I'll find some fans for you. Emphasis on silence I presume based on your current MM? also another curious question, why did you choose the U2UFO over the ascension? I like both (in fact was deciding between a crystal ship u2ufo (well technically a custom one) or the monticle 24 cyo, but decided to stick to open air and buy a tablet instead.
sticking with 140mm since I want to shove as much radiator area into the case as possible. May swap out the two 280mm rads for 2x 360 rads, but until then I'd like to stick with 140mm. I'm sick of all of the hoopla around GT ap-15s (which is what most would recommend for these rads), but as you can see there will more than enough radiator area to cool anything with even crappy fans. I also like the build quality of Noiseblockers over the GTs.

I chose the ufo for my current build because it keeps all of the heat away from my components. A great majority of the heat is dissipated in the pedestal. The air being blown through the rad situated beside my mobo is only 2c higher than the ambient, so as to not "bake" the components with ambient heat. A ufo with a pedestal also offers more cooling options than an ascension.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lostcase;13301157
I wish you would keep everything white, would kinda work with the WC and the "cold" feel to it. Anyway, I cannot wait to see the finished product.
plan is for everything to be black. The case will be black as well, there is just no pick of a black version of this case that I could find.

I don't want it to be a flashy build. I want people to have to look and see what is actually in it or ask. My current build is super flashy and rather annoys me sometimes with all of the lights when I'm trying to watch a movie in the living room.
 
#15 ·
Quote:
Originally Posted by fat_italian_stallion;13300841
5663452532_2fffaff004.jpg

I'm currently in the process of designing a new build that will be completed once Kepler and Ivy bridge are released (I will not rule out quadfire AMD, but it must be the better performer). In the mean time I have to get together the case and all of the watercooling components so it can be together ASAP. I'm looking to build something that will blow my current rig out of the water in terms of cooling and potential cooling ability and raw performance. I'll begin collecting components starting this week and will post updates regularly. I am attempting to design an optimal cooling setup for a rig with dual xeons and 4 way sli. This setup will be run 24/7 for folding@home just like my sig rig with occasional gaming thrown in when I have time between lawschool classes. I know there are a fair bit of you who are familiar with my last build, you will not be disappointed with this one. I promise it'll make Project Atlantis look like a dell budget box.

I'm through with playing around with watercooling. I really want to see how much potential it really has as a cooling method. I'm aiming for a consistent 2C or lower water/air delta over both loops. I will attempt to change fans as necessary to achieve this. TDP of the system will be limited to 1600 watts (the peak of the silverstone ST1500 psu). Should have no problem supplying the power for it since it will be running off a 220v connection. My current setup is great and performs awesome, but I'm looking for something better, something that boutique pc makers wouldn't dare build. I'm hoping to make it the epitome of what OCN water-cooling section stands for.

All comments and suggestions are welcome. I will attempt to do OCN proud.

Updates will be posted as parts arrive. The case will be the first purchase with an eta of around 3 weeks. Since I have to wait until a week or so after graduation to get back home so I can accept shipment.

Parts List
Case: Danger Den Double Wide Tower 29 (Nightmare Black Color Scheme and 2x dual 5.25 bay cutouts.)
TW29-f1.JPG?1303928885845


Feet: 6x MNPC Tech Black Billet Aluminum Case Feet
mnpctech_blackdiamond-feet_01.jpg


Fan Controllers: 2x Aquaero 5 XT Controllers
ae-xt_x920.jpg


Radiators: 3x Hardware Labs Black Ice GTX 560 Radiator, 2x Black Ice GTX 280 Radiator
04tnb4.jpg


Pumps: 4x MCP 655
MCP655_01.jpg


Pump Dressup kit: 4x Bitspower Matte Black D5 dress up kit
BP-D5MA-MBK_01.jpg


Pumptop: 2x Bitspower dual top
BP-2D5TOPP-BK_01.jpg


Fans: 32x 140mm Noiseblocker NB-BlackSilentPro PK-3
NB-BS-PRO-PK3_01.jpg


Fittings: Bitspower 1/2id 3/4 od Black Compression Fittings
bitspower-g3858-black.gif


Tubing: Primochill Primoflex Black 1/2" id 3/4" od
ex-tub-475.jpg


Reservoir: 2x Danger Den Rad Reservoir
DD-Rad-Res_03.jpg


CPU Block: 2x EK Supreme HF copper/acetal
ek-supreme_hf-acetal_01.jpg


Ram Block: 2x EK Ram Dominator Acetal/nickel
ek-ram-dominator-bk_01.jpg


Fan controller Block: 2x Aquaero 5 waterblocks
53093.jpg


PSU: Silverstone Strider ST1500
SilverStone_Strider_ST1500_connector_view.jpg


Sleeving: MDPC sleeving
Sleeve_SMALL___B_4d4ca1f877c3d.jpg
Sleeve_SATA___BL_4a2c27acdb135_75x75.jpg


Bluray Burner: 2x Sony Black Blu-ray Burner BWU-500S
Sony-BWU-500S-internal-blu-ray-Writer.jpg


I would like some recommendations on 140mm fans for these rads, but I would like something relatively quiet that will perform well on the GTX series rads. ALL 120MM fans are OUT of the question.
motherofgodsupertrooper.jpg
 
#16 ·
Quote:
Originally Posted by fat_italian_stallion;13301189
sticking with 140mm since I want to shove as much radiator area into the case as possible. May swap out the two 280mm rads for 2x 360 rads, but until then I'd like to stick with 140mm. I'm sick of all of the hoopla around GT ap-15s (which is what most would recommend for these rads), but as you can see there will more than enough radiator area to cool anything with even crappy fans. I also like the build quality of Noiseblockers over the GTs.

I chose the ufo for my current build because it keeps all of the heat away from my components. A great majority of the heat is dissipated in the pedestal. The air being blown through the rad situated beside my mobo is only 2c higher than the ambient, so as to not "bake" the components with ambient heat. A ufo with a pedestal also offers more cooling options than an ascension.

plan is for everything to be black. The case will be black as well, there is just no pick of a black version of this case that I could find.

I don't want it to be a flashy build. I want people to have to look and see what is actually in it or ask. My current build is super flashy and rather annoys me sometimes with all of the lights when I'm trying to watch a movie in the living room.
I personally never saw anything in the GTs, don't see what's so great about them. Also I'll revise and try to find something that could beat the noise blockers, could be hard.
 
#18 ·
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spykerv;13301178
Personally I'm a delta fan boy, always will be

http://www.delta.com.tw/product/cp/dcfans/download/pdf/FFB/FFB140x140x38mm.pdf

Make sure to have the fan controller to output 2 Amps per channel if you get this bad boy.

http://www.delta.com.tw/product/cp/dcfans/dcfans_prod_sch.asp?act=sch_rsl&tp=co&fantp=&size=140x140&th=&vol=

These are all of deltas 140mm, and i sent you the best for the standard 38mm depth as opposed to 50mm, so I'd personally just stick to the 38s.

You're an extreme guy, you need extreme fans. Derp
any idea on pricing? I'd like to stick to around 50DB as a maximum sound level for the fans.
 
#19 ·
Quote:
Originally Posted by fat_italian_stallion;13301232
any idea on pricing?
I'll check them our and find it.

Personally Id say after looking at frozen, the noise blockers are your best bet, they seem great. If not there's the Yates, which are pretty good.

But here's the delta

http://www.pchub.com/uph/laptop/656-63604-18429/Delta-Electronics-FFB1448UHE-Server---Square-Fan.html

Extremely high price, even for your standards I'd say.
It would take $1000 (if you covered both sides of the rads) alone for fans. Not to mention trying to find a fan controller that handled 2 A a channel. Sorry I even mentioned them, stick to the noise blockers
 
#20 ·
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spykerv;13301320
I'll check them our and find it.

Personally Id say after looking at frozen, the noise blockers are your best bet, they seem great. If not there's the Yates, which are pretty good.

But here's the delta

http://www.pchub.com/uph/laptop/656-63604-18429/Delta-Electronics-FFB1448UHE-Server---Square-Fan.html

Extremely high price, even for your standards I'd say.
It would take $1000 (if you covered both sides of the rads) alone for fans. Not to mention trying to find a fan controller that handled 2 A a channel. Sorry I even mentioned them, stick to the noise blockers
I'm going to cover one side first and later when I have the money cover the 2nd side unless of course I get an awesome graduation gift or a crappy expensive one I can return for the cash.
 
#21 ·
Quote:
Originally Posted by fat_italian_stallion;13301356
I'm going to cover one side first and later when I have the money cover the 2nd side unless of course I get an awesome graduation gift or a crappy expensive one I can return for the cash.
I'd go for the deltas or the Yates for your GPU loop, and stick the noise blockers on the chipset+ram+ CPU loop(s). Should be plenty.
 
#22 ·
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spykerv;13301375
I'd go for the deltas or the Yates for your GPU loop, and stick the noise blockers on the chipset+ram+ CPU loop(s). Should be plenty.
I'd rather not get yates. I have them now and they just feel "cheap"... because they are. They are great performers though, not much better out there, especially when price is factored in. I've had a few of them die on me as well. I'm not looking to replace anything in this build (fingers crossed). Maybe there's another fan out there that's just super awesome no one has heard about
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#23 ·
Quote:
Originally Posted by fat_italian_stallion;13301397
I'd rather not get yates. I have them now and they just feel "cheap"... because they are. They are great performers though, not much better out there, especially when price is factored in. I've had a few of them die on me as well. I'm not looking to replace anything in this build (fingers crossed). Maybe there's another fan out there that's just super awesome no one has heard about
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I'll look around and tell you if I find any.
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=&products_id=24896

Closest thing, what is this? 3.75 a a channel? 12v * 3.75 = 45w right?
 
#24 ·
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spykerv;13301434
I'll look around and tell you if I find any.
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=&products_id=24896

Closest thing, what is this? 3.75 a a channel? 12v * 3.75 = 45w right?
I'll be using the aquaero 5 xt which i think is 30 watts per channel prolly or the lamptron touch which is 30 watts per channel (will have 2 of either)

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=29336
 
#26 ·
Quote:
Originally Posted by csm725;13301488
It's really damn obnoxious to quote the whole OP. Really really really obnoxious. Anyways, nice project here and I like the matte black theme that's going on.
Cool story brohan.

Stallion: the lamptron has something about it, it's very refined IMO. Idk why, for ex with lamptron if you look at their ALU clamps, their really nice. I almost got them over compression fitting and regular plastic ones, but that is sadly a different tale. One with a sad ending, with the main characters being Charlie horse, my Wallet, and my parents not trusting water cooling.
 
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