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I did a couple days ago
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The hacker caused Sony to shutdown PSN and related network services. How is that good for the consumer?
Temporary suffering for a far greater cause.

I don't know why I keep having to reiterate myself.
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Temporary suffering for a far greater cause.

I don't know why I keep having to reiterate myself.
I dont mean to sound rude or ignorant, but what greater cause?
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Wait, physically moving the data center? Is that really needed?

Anyways, good to hear it'll be up and running again soon and no money was directly stolen because of it
Well you dont move a datacenter. Sony may move to a new datacenter but i doubt they own one.

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Spoken like a true consumer . Disregard anything past your own convenience, morals be damned.


Yup, but they'll use the same IP addresses.


Well we'll just have to cut his head off and bury him somewhere. Because it goes without saying that we can't turn him loose. He'd report at once to some outback nazi law enforcement agency and they'll run us down like dogs... Jesus did I just say that?
What do IP addresses have to do with anything?
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I dont mean to sound rude or ignorant, but what greater cause?
You'll understand when the police state arrives (or doesn't).
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Yes. Especially considering the hacker hasn't done anything beyond the breach, and I don't believe they will. This is subject to change of course.

1. Sony taunts hackers.
2. Sony uses its power in an attempt to ruin the life of a programmer as a deterrent.
3. Sony leaves their network vulnerable.

No one else is to blame.
Nintendo, Microsoft, and just about any other corporation has attacked hackers in some way. By your odd definition, that's taunting but OK whatever floats your boat.

Story remains the same: Hypocrites attack Sony just because Sony takes on hacker head on, just like Nintendo and Microsoft have done in the past too (hence hypocritical "mass hysteria").

That's supposedly justification to attack Sony, bring down their network, and breach their network security to steal information and possibly CC numbers. Cool story - what exactly is trying to be proven, particularly by this attack? To make consumers suffer? Because if you think for a moment that Sony is the one directly suffering, you'd better think twice.

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Temporary suffering for a far greater cause.

I don't know why I keep having to reiterate myself.
A greater cause? To prevent people, who are just like you and me, video gamers - from being able to play their rightfully purchased video games? Especially at a time like this, when Valve has released their brand new video game too. It's like throwing knives at Sony and hitting Valve in the crossfire, after the majority have hit the consumers first - OOPS. And the developers of Mortal Kombat too.

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I dont mean to sound rude or ignorant, but what greater cause?
There is no greater cause. It's the blind leading the blind at this point. There was some sort of cause when Sony removed Other OS, but that cause was lost a long time ago. It's simply denial now and hater attacks. People somehow think that no other company would do the same thing Sony did, to the T if not worse. Sadly enough, MS and Nintendo never got the chance to pick out and point the finger at one person for Wiichips and JTAGs - so the exact same events never got a chance to occur. But Geo, being a dumbass, decided to be that person. Yet people make him out to be a martyr.

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Well you dont move a datacenter. Sony may move to a new datacenter but i doubt they own one.

What do IP addresses have to do with anything?
IP addresses have to do with nothing. It was a sarcastic comment to attack Sony somehow.
Edited by OmegaNemesis28 - 4/27/11 at 10:14pm
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Spoken like a true consumer . Disregard anything past your own convenience, morals be damned.
I find that statement very ironic. Question someones morals when you are defending a hacker(s) that did something illegal. You are defending them on the premise that they did this as some good deed when we have no idea why they really done it. Even if they did want to simply expose the vulnerability and didn't take any information, they went about it all wrong. If they were really wanting to help they would have kept it quite and told Sony, so that they might fix it instead of this illegal and self-serving method. If they done it to "teach sony a lesson" that makes it even worse. It it still illegal and hurt countless innocents in the crossfire. They are no hero's, don't kid yourself. May want to check your own moral compass if you are defending people like this.
Edited by Strat79 - 4/27/11 at 10:24pm
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Yes. Especially considering the hacker hasn't done anything beyond the breach, and I don't believe they will. This is subject to change of course.

1. Sony taunts hackers.
2. Sony uses its power in an attempt to ruin the life of a programmer as a deterrent.
3. Sony leaves their network vulnerable.

No one else is to blame.
Your reasoning is silly.

If I leave $100 on the table and go on about how it couldn't possibly be stolen, I'd rightfully be considered a moron, but if/when that money is stolen, a crime has still been committed and my own ignorance does not negate that.

Fact is, an unknown number of folks found their way in and gained access to millions of peoples' private information. It was their decision to do so and they'll be held accountable in the event they get caught.

That's not to say Sony's hands are clean here. If their security truly was inadequate to protect the sensitive information they were entrusted with then measures should be taken, but the original point still stands.
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I find that statement very ironic. Question someones morals when you are defending a hacker(s) that did something illegal. You are defending them on the premise that they did this as some good deed when we have no idea why they really done it. Even if they did want to simply expose the vulnerability and didn't take any information, they went about it all wrong. If they were really wanting to help they would have kept it quite and told Sony, so that they might fix it instead of this illegal and self-serving method.
But it's for the greater cause! Or as another member put it - "sweet justice".
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