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AMD is a winner at its price point. Nobody expect them to be the fastest/greatest but you got the performance/value ratio. I personally wouldn't pay top dollars for AMD no matter how fast it is. Even AMD is faster than Intel I still wouldn't pay more for AMD. AMD has to be cheap but slow. It is a brand thing. I like AMD being the second best because second best always try the hardest We already have a top dog and we don't need another top dog in the house. If nobody would pay high for AMD, AMD would eventually stop trying and stay cheap forever. Everyone wins.
Edited by MaddenModer - 4/28/11 at 6:03am
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If Bulldozer fails I would go to work. Come home. And go back to being a computer geek. Oh wait nothing happened. Go X68!
post #43 of 255
Im going to cry if it does
    
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If it's a better performer than a 2600k and under 300 bucks it will win.Otherwise.....
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Its because the i5-2500k destroyed every aspect of win AMD really had going for it.

The price performance ratio of the i5-2500k is amazing and people know it.

Its generating a lot of hate from people because it really hit a sore spot for many of them. Its faster in gaming, its faster in encoding/rendering, and it costs nearly the same as a high end AMD chip x4 or x6.

It kinda took everything AMD users of high end x4 and mid end x6 users were arguing with Intel people over and turned it right around on them.

Bulldozer needs more per core performance and a 4.5GHz+ overclocking ceiling or its going to be pitched to a different user segment.
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Originally Posted by BallaTheFeared View Post
Its because the i5-2500k destroyed every aspect of win AMD really had going for it.

The price performance ratio of the i5-2500k is amazing and people know it.

Its generating a lot of hate from people because it really hit a sore spot for many of them. Its faster in gaming, its faster in encoding/rendering, and it costs nearly the same as a high end AMD chip x4 or x6.

It kinda took everything AMD users of high end x4 and mid end x6 users were arguing with Intel people over and turned it right around on them.

Bulldozer needs more per core performance and a 4.5GHz+ overclocking ceiling or its going to be pitched to a different user segment.
I disagree, amd has alot of win still left in them, brand new 955 only cost like £95 and for the average comsumer thats more than enough, not everyone needs a 4.5ghz processor.

To be honest i don't really see too much hate for sandy from many amd users on here, if anything i would say the majority of users would agree with you on that they are amazing price/performance.
post #47 of 255
Yeah I agree not every needs/wants/can use a top end quad core cpu.

I would agree too that most people don't care or fully agree, its just a very vocal minority that seems to have issues with it.

Its not all about GHz, its also about per clock performance. 1366 can clock higher than SB under LN2, but they need several 100 more MHz just to equal a SB chip (like 5.8GHz to match a SB chip at 5.3GHz) and only one of them can do those speeds without extreme cooling.
    
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post #48 of 255
I want Bulldozer to succeed for two reasons:

If Bulldozer succeeds, Intel will be forced to drop their Sandy Bridge pricing and/or get Ivy Bridge out sooner.

If Bulldozer is just around on par with Sandy Bridge, Intel probably will still lower their prices, because AMD will be at the same performance level at a likely lower or equal cost.

I'm no fanboy of either. I make my final decision according to who is on top for the price at the time that I'm building. If the 2500k drops below $200, it's mine, unless AMD has some amazing 8-core chip for ~$230.
Edited by Stealth Pyros - 4/28/11 at 6:43am
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post #49 of 255
It can't fail...

If it fails in the best performance it will win in pricing
If it fails in pricing it will win in performance

one win is all you need for the fail to be ignored. This is really true of any piece of hardware...a side from those cases where something fails in both price and performance but fanbois keep it alive.
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if it fails it will be like AMD punched me in the face. because i hate everything about intel.
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