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Originally Posted by Captain Han View Post
it wont happen mainly because 22nm and 14nm fab (coming Q4 this year) will be able to directly compete against ARM. Remember x86 is faster than ARM on almost everything, the only drawback is its high power consumption (mainly due to current leakage and power loss during switching)

Intel apparently spend over $10 billion on R&D to fix power leakage issues on tiny transistor gate length.

I was told recently they got transistor gate to 4 atoms thick, and it was almost impossible to mitigate current leakage on that scale due to quantum mechanical effects with conventional methods. So the $10 billion was suppose to solve that problem.
Power draw and, of course, the price. But for consumers the OEMs mark up products enough that low-end PCs and tablets seem to blend in price point.
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...And the average user doesn't care. Newsflash: People barely tap the computing power their computers have. If ARM can produce some very power efficient chips for the desktop user, it's an extremely large energy footprint that can be mitigated.

x86 is grossly inefficient. I'll stick with it because I'm a power user, but not many need it.
Yeah, but we're on OCN. RISC is never gonna reach anywhere near the level of performance of an X86 processor. It's one thing to want to do this for AMD's budget CPUs; it's one entirely different to want to do it for the high-end as well.
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post #33 of 85
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Intel apparently spend over $10 billion on R&D to fix power leakage issues on tiny transistor gate length.

I was told recently they got transistor gate to 4 atoms thick, and it was almost impossible to mitigate current leakage on that scale due to quantum mechanical effects with conventional methods. So the $10 billion was suppose to solve that problem.
Ya there's this magic obelisk out in the dessert. All you have to do is stick money in it and it fixes things. It's called the oracle of ponzi or something.


Edited by Hephasteus - 4/28/11 at 9:06pm
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post #34 of 85
are they daft?
AMD wont completely drop x86. but EXPANDING to offer ARM CPUs may be worth it!
still wont happen in a while.
    
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Not that it really matters to this discussion, but ARM doesn't manufacture chips. They design them and make money off of patents and royalties. ARM was actually co founded by Apple. I'm a shareholder
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I did an engineering project with ARM because i was the most inteligent in my school therefor i was selected muhahaha! I did not like them. I asked them, do you have anything to do with AMD because they had both logo's on their shirts. hhmmmm.
Most "inteligent"? I found this ironic.
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Makes some sense. AMD could focus on high performance CPUs enabling it to compete harder with Intel, then they could just sell ARM CPUs for the lower end market.
    
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Would ARM on a Windows desktop totally break compatibility with hundreds of programs, most importantly, old games ?
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Can't happen until windows supports it.
    
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I did an engineering project with ARM because i was the most inteligent in my school therefor i was selected muhahaha! I did not like them. I asked them, do you have anything to do with AMD because they had both logo's on their shirts. hhmmmm.
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Looks like a crap version of AMD
http://www.arm.com/
Dear Lord, please tell me people like this aren't engineering the future's technology.


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God help the world.
I see I was beaten to it.
Edited by Soggy_Popcorn - 4/28/11 at 10:40pm
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