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Im not a rom developer, and to be honest I don't how that works. I DO know this. Liberty does use a stock kernel. Overclock and battery life is just scratching the surface. Liberty improves battery life probably by de-bluring the phone and really bringing it back to vanilla android.
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That isn't all new kernels offer.... all this 'bootstrapper' thing has done is give you a software workaround for your encrypted bootloader, nothing more, nothing less.
Ok, so what does the HTC Android offer over my Motorola Android then? So far everything you've mentioned I have shown is capable of being done on a DROID X.
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post #102 of 116
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Ok, so what does the HTC Android offer over my Motorola Android then? So far everything you've mentioned I have shown is capable of being done on a DROID X.
the unlocked bootloader lets us do many things... examples:
- switch kernels (a must)
-port pretty much anything to it if you have the skills/time, only possible if custom kernels can be run which isn't possible with a locked bootloader
- change the splash screen
- mess with the partition sizes
- have a real recovery installed properly
- makes your phone much much easier for devs to hack

There are many many more things, anybody want to help me?

Just for reference this applies to all phones that have unlocked bootloaders, not just HTC's.
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Ok, so what does the HTC Android offer over my Motorola Android then? So far everything you've mentioned I have shown is capable of being done on a DROID X.
Show me a custom rom with gingerbread thats not built off the leak OTA update. Take the original Droid, its bootloader is unlocked, and developers have kept it alive and have even given it Gingerbread. D1 had gingerbread before the Droid 2 or Droid X even had it. Same thing with the Incredible. It has Gingerbread and Im pretty certain that it won't see Gingerbread from HTC directly. New versions of Android require new kernels. The Droid X can not have Gingerbread until Motorola releases Gingerbread first. Because of the limitation of the bootloader its impossible or extremely difficult to get Gingerbread running without Motorola's support. Gingerbread on my Droid X is way better than any Froyo rom out there for the Droid X.
post #104 of 116
I would just wait for them to pump out dual core phones (a few are already out). I prefer the Android OS. I like the notification bar, customizable desktop pages, flash capabilities, google map capabilities (transit directions, free navigation, etc). Also, there are far more phones to choose from to fit your prefernce. Finally, I feel like iphones are for chicks, artsy people who thinks apple is so cool, apple addicts, and for kids.

If you do get an iPhone, don't get an iPhone 4. 5 will most definitely be a dual core processor, and you're gonna kick yourself in the rear watching all these dual cores outperform your 1GHz cpu.
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Show me a custom rom with gingerbread thats not built off the leak OTA update. Take the original Droid, its bootloader is unlocked, and developers have kept it alive and have even given it Gingerbread. D1 had gingerbread before the Droid 2 or Droid X even had it. Same thing with the Incredible. It has Gingerbread and Im pretty certain that it won't see Gingerbread from HTC directly. New versions of Android require new kernels. The Droid X can not have Gingerbread until Motorola releases Gingerbread first. Because of the limitation of the bootloader its impossible or extremely difficult to get Gingerbread running without Motorola's support. Gingerbread on my Droid X is way better than any Froyo rom out there for the Droid X.
Isn't it Verizon who determines when you get the OTA update to Gingerbread for those devices, not the phone manufacturer itself?
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Show me a custom rom with gingerbread thats not built off the leak OTA update. Take the original Droid, its bootloader is unlocked, and developers have kept it alive and have even given it Gingerbread. D1 had gingerbread before the Droid 2 or Droid X even had it. Same thing with the Incredible. It has Gingerbread and Im pretty certain that it won't see Gingerbread from HTC directly. New versions of Android require new kernels. The Droid X can not have Gingerbread until Motorola releases Gingerbread first. Because of the limitation of the bootloader its impossible or extremely difficult to get Gingerbread running without Motorola's support. Gingerbread on my Droid X is way better than any Froyo rom out there for the Droid X.
Its been confirmed that the incredible will get gingerbread, as well as the desire, DHD, DZ ect.
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Isn't it Verizon who determines when you get the OTA update to Gingerbread for those devices, not the phone manufacturer itself?
The carrier is given the update, but its their choice to release it yes.
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Its been confirmed that the incredible will get gingerbread, as well as the desire, DHD, DZ ect.


The carrier is given the update, but its their choice to release it yes.
So basically what I'm lacking with my DROID X is the ability upgrade to a new OS prior to it being released for my particular device? I'm honestly not too anxious to have Gingerbread for my X, especially since last I heard it had not been successfully rooted yet.
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So basically what I'm lacking with my DROID X is the ability upgrade to a new OS prior to it being released for my particular device? I'm honestly not too anxious to have Gingerbread for my X, especially since last I heard it had not been successfully rooted yet.
Just wait for the Gingy update, might be worth a shot once rooted.

And you're in luck, Moto might have a change of heart and unlock its bootloaders in late 2011.
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Just wait for the Gingy update, might be worth a shot once rooted.

And you're in luck, Moto might have a change of heart and unlock its bootloaders in late 2011.
Yea, once it's rooted, I'll probably get it. Until then Froyo works just fine.

Their policy change in that article will likely have no affect on the DROID X. In any case, I still don't see much of an advantage that a phone like the Incredible has over the X.
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I have an iPhone 3gs. It's unlocked for t-mobile. Granted I only have edge network but I've raced my cousin who has the same phone on AT&T and it's maybe a split second faster at web browsing. I'm happy with my iPhone 3gs but my gf has a lg optimus t and it's running froyo and it was only 50 bucks. I gotta say for a cheaper android phone it really give my 3gs a run for the money. Smaller screen and lower res but runs great and has a very good ui and it's not even sense. Personally I'm waiting for the galaxy s 2 which is a beast or the htc sensation which should rival it. I gotta say tho if ur getting a new contract depending on the coverage in your area go with t-mobile and the galaxy s 2 or sensation. I know in Chicago hspa+ burns lte and no data cap. That's right no effin cap! Your not going to find that with anyone else. And at&t's network is just not fast enough. I'm not a rep for t-mobile or anything but I'm totally happy. Plus with the t-mobile and AT&T probable merge u will get more options and yes the iPhone. I'd go t- mobile and give one of the two phones I mentioned a shot and if you don't like it you can def sell it for more than you got it for ( with a new contract ) and get the iPhone13 when it comes out next year lol. I'm not an iPhone hater either I actually like it but the iphone4 really isn't a whole lot diff than the 3gs after a couple weeks of using it and I've been very impressed with Andriod. Plus ther technology seems to be advancing much faster and with 3rd party developer competition you can almost gaurantee that to keep happening.
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