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LOL but are we talking about price or image quality and raw horsepower? If its the latter the green team will win.
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In Eyefinity/Surround resolution having to frame swap from 16x speed cards to 4x speed at that high of a resolution would be a huge performance hit. Easily 10-20% slowing down the whole setup. In alternate frame rendering, the two 580s in the fast slots have to wait for the third 580 to swap its frames in the slow slot effectively crippling the whole setup.

The pathetic SLI scaling with the third card makes perfect sense now and explains why my testing with a full Quad 16x PCI-E MB are much much faster.
According to Toms, yeah I know..Toms.

The performance hit lessens as the rez increases, how that plays out in EF/Surr, guess the H retest will show that.

Now back to H, they weren't trying to hide it, as it was pictured on the first page.

Did they just not notice or did they choose to ignore it?
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Well as far as im concerned [H] is no longer a reputable site in my eyes,after all they are suppose to be pro's at this kinda stuff.And if i remember correctly this isnt the only test they have screwed the pooch on. And yes i would feel the same way if the tables were turned in Nvidia's favor.
Seems to me some of these sites are getting some handouts or something from companys that want there products to perform better than they actually do! And im not just being biased because of this particular test.
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LOL but are we talking about price or image quality and raw horsepower? If its the latter the green team will win.
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Well as far as im concerned [H] is no longer a reputable site in my eyes,after all they are suppose to be pro's at this kinda stuff.And if i remember correctly this isnt the only test they have screwed the pooch on. And yes i would feel the same way if the tables were turned in Nvidia's favor.
Seems to me some of these sites are getting some handouts or something from companys that want there products to perform better than they actually do! And im not just being biased because of this particular test.
nvidia fanboi. not even a flicker of a doubt, there.
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According to Toms, yeah I know..Toms.

The performance hit lessens as the rez increases, how that plays out in EF/Surr, guess the H retest will show that.

Now back to H, they weren't trying to hide it, as it was pictured on the first page.

Did they just not notice or did they choose to ignore it?
You can see that even with just a single 6950 on a single monitor ( 2560x1600 (not having to frame swap anything let alone send the image to three different monitors) lost 14% performance.



That is one of the reasons why nVIdia requires NF200s under certain circumstances. You start to run 3x/4x GPUs at PCI-E 4x speeds and performance plummets.

My comments are that there definitely was something awry with this review and it should be retracted until it is re-done. Whether they forgot to mention or acknowledge the 4x speed PCI-e slot and the reason for doing so is anyones guess.
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Why is this so hard to understand? You can't expect their results to be the same when they use a completely different method then Vega.

Vega is using in game benchmarks to compare his results with their results, that they obtained using a totally different methodology. It's totally illogical. They are doing the right thing in using real time actual gaming benchmarks.

Vega is not. They are professionnals reviewers. He is not.
Dunno if he's a proffesional reviever or not, but Hardocp is a joke.

They use ancient system coupled with 3.6 GHz CPU.
Even for high end SLI/CF setups on multi monitor resolutions. How realistic is that? Anyone who knows anything about Fermi, should know this is a nonsense setup.

And no. Slow CPU does not equally affect both NV and AMD because whole Fermi lineup needs CPU cyles/threads, while AMD can rely on QPU much more effectivly in CPU bottleneck scenarios.

In this particular test they went 3xSLI on PCI-E 4x which is mind numbing. GTX 3-Way SLI 580 lost to 6990+6970 in every single benchmark, and this is truly an accomplishment by itself.

Furthermore they test only 4-5 games.

One of which is already in AMD pocket, because they put money in development - Dragon Age 2. Although there are plenty more TWIMTBP games, which cant seem to enter their miniscule games list.

They never test games which don't work with SLI/CF.

They say they test gameplay yet they never mention micro-stuttering. Even with their archaic setup.

They often make blunders and biased benchmark.
Such as regularly comparing Nvidia's Transparency Anti Aliasing vs AMD's Adaptive AA in DirectX 10/11 titles. Which for AMD part is either a straightforward lie or a noobish error, because Adaptive Anti Aliasing works only in DirectX 9 OpenGL.

Im my opinion they have an agenda, because it's just too many errors to dismiss them as accident.
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You can see that even with just a single 6950 on a single monitor ( 2560x1600 (not having to frame swap anything let alone send the image to three different monitors) lost 14% performance.



That is one of the reasons why nVIdia requires NF200s under certain circumstances. You start to run 3x/4x GPUs at PCI-E 4x speeds and performance plummets.

My comments are that there definitely was something awry with this review and it should be retracted until it is re-done. Whether they forgot to mention or acknowledge the 4x speed PCI-e slot and the reason for doing so is anyones guess.
How does that explain 1680*1050 taking more of a performance hit?
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How does that explain 1680*1050 taking more of a performance hit?
1680x1050 is going to run at a much higher FPS stressing the link between the 4x PCI-E slot and the CPU. At the higher resolution but much lower frame rate the 4x PCI-E slot has to talk a lot less to the CPU. These tests are single card so they do not factor in PCI-E slot to PCI-E slot communication multi-GPU bandwidth requirements.
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Well as far as im concerned [H] is no longer a reputable site in my eyes
That would imply that they have been at one point. Sorry your just now catching on.
Your not the first to say that, again sorry. [H] ate
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