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I recently purchased a Corsair H70 simply because I wanted to get a quick water cooling fix, I currently have the Coolermaster Hyper N520 which cools phenomenally but I was planning on overclocking my CPU to a solid 4.0 - 4.5 GHz and wanted an extra cooling kick.

The thing with the Corsair H70 is, I didn't open it yet which means I can still return it. I'm SERIOUSLY considering it, from what I hear for only like $50-$80 I can get a loop done that makes the H70 look like a complete joke.

As you may have figured (considering I purchased a Corsair H70) I'm not too big on water cooling (in terms of experience). I've always wanted to make my own loop but never got around to it because I was afraid that I would end up purchasing the wrong equipment and screwing it all up along the way (paranoia sucks man).

At this point, though, I want to just do it already.

As of right now I'm only looking to cool my CPU and maybe my GPU in the future (currently have a GTX 260 but I plan on upgrading to a higher end card although I'm not entirely sure which at the moment). I have an i7 860 (which I plan on overclocking to a solid 4.0 - 4.5 GHz).

I have a HAF-X case and from what I hear I can fit a triple 120/140mm radiator correct (fairly certain it's 120mm, but not 100% on that)? My plan is to get a triple 120/140mm radiator at the top and use this one radiator to cool my CPU and possibly my GPU in the near future.

Would this be enough for both my CPU/GPU or would I need an extra radiator in the near future?

These are two parts I was considering based off of some solid recommendations from others;

Reservoir

Pump

I don't know what type of barbs come highly recommend so if anyone could provide me with a couple suggestions (as well as a brief explanation as to why you like said barb I would really appreciate it)!

As far as tubing goes I honestly don't know what types are awesome and which are complete jokes but I did a little bit of digging and I came down to these two;

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/72...?tl=g30c99s171

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/71...?tl=g30c99s171

As I said I have a HAF-X case and I would definitely like to embrace the red/black theme the case has to offer with the red tubing but I am not entirely sure if the red color might detract the ability to detect a problem with my system flow.

I just need some assurance in this area so if anyone could provide such assurance I would, once again, greatly appreciate it.

Coolant is something I really have 0 experience with so I really need some help in that department and CPU blocks are also a big risk factor for me.

Performance is what matters but I'll definitely be tempted to find a CPU waterblock that LOOKS cool lol, so if anyone can throw out some solid recommendations for my CPU (i7 860 Lynnfield) it would help a lot.

Since I'm new to this and all when I order a CPU waterblock do they come with the back bracket? If not then I guess a bracket to go along with it would be solid as well.

I don't want this to be a nuisance so if you don't want to search specific products for me then please don't, brand/model recommendations work very well on my end.

I think I'm covering it all if I'm missing anything please don't hesitate to call me on it and once again I really appreciate any help!
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Coolant should just be distilled water (from your grocery store) and either a biocide (such as PT_Nuke) or a pure silver coil.

XSPC makes some nice watercooling kits that would work fine for you. I would recommend the RS360 kit (you have to select RS360), which would work fine with a CPU/GPU loop.

I like Bitspower fittings. If you are willing to spend extra for looks, compression fittings are nice.

Also, I like 3/8" x 1/2" tubing, so your choice looks good.
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You can get a nice XSPC kit for $190, add GOOD tubing to it and a kill coil, and you get to around $230. I greatly recommend this kit. The tubing that comes stock with it is garbage, so you'll have to buy around 7 feet of "aftermarket" tubing, but the barbs that come with the kit stock are 7/16 ID. Meaning your tubing will have to be that size. A kill coil gets rid of growth in your system, so you don't get water plagued with algae, lol. BTW, the difference between the $150 RS and the $200 RX is that the radiator on the RX is twice as thick as the RS. Go all money or go home, I like that quote.

You really ought to research EVERY part of your watercooling setup, you have no idea how long I've been researching this stuff and I still haven't made a final decision on all the parts I want to get. You really need a ton of knowledge.. and you can't completely go on other people's knowledge. It would be like comparing AMD and Nvidia... they are both video cards, but you want to buy the one that would suit YOUR needs (eyefinity, 3D, all that jazz).
The 655 has high flow, so many recommend it. The 355 has high pressure, so also many recommend it. It's whatever works for you. Personally, I would have higher pressure so my water goes farther, rather than higher flow.
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I've got a HAF-X that I have been building. It definitely fits a 360 radiator (3x120mm), and if you're going to go with a kit (not a bad idea), the XSPC kit is very good. Go with the RX kit for the price difference if you can afford it.

I started with an H50 with two aftermarket fans. It did a good job, but it would still overheat easily with overclocking. Now I can't push my temps too high, my chip fails crashes before it overheats. I also put my 6950 GPU on the loop with a full cover waterblock, and with my 360 radiator, I have no temperature problems whatsoever. I think you'll be able to crank it as much as possible with a 360 kit, just go with the RX, and also it should mount fine in the HAF-X
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Also, I agree 100% with Buska103's recommendation. Definitely replace the tubing, get the killcoil, and you'll be set.

Best of luck!
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Id sell the H70, I think its great an all, but a real water cooling setup will blow it out of the water like you said.

+1 on the XSPC kit
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Awesome thanks for the replies guys, really appreciate it. I'll check it all out thoroughly tonight after work.

Keep the recommendations coming please!
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You can get a nice XSPC kit for $190, add GOOD tubing to it and a kill coil, and you get to around $230. I greatly recommend this kit. The tubing that comes stock with it is garbage, so you'll have to buy around 7 feet of "aftermarket" tubing, but the barbs that come with the kit stock are 7/16 ID. Meaning your tubing will have to be that size. A kill coil gets rid of growth in your system, so you don't get water plagued with algae, lol. BTW, the difference between the $150 RS and the $200 RX is that the radiator on the RX is twice as thick as the RS. Go all money or go home, I like that quote.

You really ought to research EVERY part of your watercooling setup, you have no idea how long I've been researching this stuff and I still haven't made a final decision on all the parts I want to get. You really need a ton of knowledge.. and you can't completely go on other people's knowledge. It would be like comparing AMD and Nvidia... they are both video cards, but you want to buy the one that would suit YOUR needs (eyefinity, 3D, all that jazz).
The 655 has high flow, so many recommend it. The 355 has high pressure, so also many recommend it. It's whatever works for you. Personally, I would have higher pressure so my water goes farther, rather than higher flow.
I was also curious, the size of the tube; does it matter? Is one tube size better over the other, I'm assuming the bigger the tube the more water flowing power I would need which ultimately translates into a pricier setup right?

I also wanted to know what type of pump was in the XSPC Rasa kit, I'm definitely going to be getting the 360 radiator kit without a doubt. My budget isn't tight at all, I have a solid $9000 to spend on anything I want if I need to but I'm just trying to get a solid setup that is future proof; meaning high quality components that can easily be paired with new equipment for further water cooling destruction!

I don't want to invest in a starter kit if it's just going to leave me at a brick wall eventually, is the radiator really good in this kit?

Honestly I wouldn't mind buying separate res, pump, tubing, waterblock and all that good stuff if I can ensure a solid system that will allow me to go even further with liquid cooling. One thing I don't want to get pretty cheap on is a pump, I want one that will let me add a GPU (maybe two) to my loop.

Once again, thanks for the feedback guys. I'll be researching all of this stuff over the weekend and will finally make my order on Sunday night. I'll be going to Microcenter tomorrow to return the H70 (thank god I decided NOT to open it, I was pretty close to it lol).

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