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absolutely. you could hate a business man's ethics as much as you want, but you still have to respect his ability to make money.
Anyone can stack money. It is NOT something I respect in the slightest.

Ethics > business success.

Making money without ethics is manifest selfish evil.
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No, because stacking money is absolutely irrelevant to everything except greed.
he donated tons of money though.

honestly, greed is a word poor people made up to have a reason to hate rich people.

that's just my humble opinion.

i mean the kid built an empire at the age of 19! he's a 26 year old CEO who's so far only caused his company profit.
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honestly, greed is a word poor people made up to have a reason to hate rich people.
Wow.

Irreconcilable opinions.

Greed is probably the WORST part of humanity besides HATE.
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Wow.

Irreconcilable opinions.

Greed is probably the WORST part of humanity besides HATE.
that's your opinion and i respect it, but the guy honestly isn't hurting anyone. all of the money he makes is legit. you're not forced to own a facebook. i sure as hell respect him.
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post #55 of 92
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that's your opinion and i respect it, but the guy honestly isn't hurting anyone. all of the money he makes is legit. you're not forced to own a facebook. i sure as hell respect him.
You really believe that every single penny he made was fair? You don't think he EVER overcharged anyone or made a deal that benefited him more than the other guy? That's ultimately what business is, ripping people off. If you want proof, look at everyone who is rich, do they charge really fair prices? Or do they make their money by overcharging and scamming people? Come on man, don't be so ignorant. Greed is not some concept made up by the poor to hate the rich, it is a PROVABLE HUMAN EMOTION, and the fact that people embrace it makes me SICK.
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You really believe that every single penny he made was fair? You don't think he EVER overcharged anyone or made a deal that benefited him more than the other guy? That's ultimately what business is, ripping people off. If you want proof, look at everyone who is rich, do they charge really fair prices? Or do they make their money by overcharging and scamming people? Come on man, don't be so ignorant. Greed is not some concept made up by the poor to hate the rich, it is a PROVABLE HUMAN EMOTION, and the fact that people embrace it makes me SICK.
by fair, i mean legal. clearly, he used shady business tactics, but he did it legally.

he's a role model in that he's one of the youngest billionaires alive. however, we have different morals, so it's understandable, and i could see where you're coming from.
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by fair, i mean legal. clearly, he used shady business tactics, but he did it legally.
Fair and legal are not synonymous. Far from it.
    
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by fair, i mean legal. clearly, he used shady business tactics, but he did it legally.

he's a role model in that he's one of the youngest billionaires alive. however, we have different morals, so it's understandable, and i could see where you're coming from.
Legal != fair my friend, once you understand that you will start to feel differently about these people. Also I'm sorry if I came at you a bit hard, I'm very passionate about this subject. Also I disagree with him being a role model for this reason: where did all that money come from? Other people. So for ONE MAN to be rich MILLIONS have to lose something. I don't see a problem with people getting lots of money, but theres a point where they get too much. He, and others with similar amounts of money, are examples of when people get too much. I understand that he deserves money for doing something "Great", but I also feel that you can give someone too big of a reward, that only serves to hurt them. Think about it, if your child cleans his room do you buy him a car? And if you constantly did that, how do you think that child would realistically turn out?
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Fair and legal are not synonymous. Far from it.
i understand that, it was a bad choice of wording on my part.
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Legal != fair my friend, once you understand that you will start to feel differently about these people. Also I'm sorry if I came at you a bit hard, I'm very passionate about this subject. Also I disagree with him being a role model for this reason: where did all that money come from? Other people. So for ONE MAN to be rich MILLIONS have to lose something. I don't see a problem with people getting lots of money, but theres a point where they get too much. He, and others with similar amounts of money, are examples of when people get too much. I understand that he deserves money for doing something "Great", but I also feel that you can give someone too big of a reward, that only serves to hurt them. Think about it, if your child cleans his room do you buy him a car? And if you constantly did that, how do you think that child would realistically turn out?
what did those people lose though? nothing. they get to use a free and very useful service. the man donated money, and even those twins that said he stole their idea (which isn't 100% true) got 65 million out of the man, and a movie which made tons of money.

the only flaw i see with your argument is he didn't get handed facebook, he created it. and if he's making millions off of his own creation, i don't see what's wrong with that. that is the very definition of capitalism and the essence of the american dream in that everyone has a chance to become a millionaire, or even a billionaire.
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the only flaw i see with your argument is he didn't get handed facebook, he created it. and if he's making millions off of his own creation, i don't see what's wrong with that. that is the very definition of capitalism and the essence of the american dream in that everyone has a chance to become a millionaire, or even a billionaire.
But is that creation really worth that much money? That's exactly my point, capitalism is about getting AS MUCH as you possible can for something you create, that's greed. I know I'm sitting on a high horse here, and to be completely honest I would do the same as he did. But ultimately, that's the problem with capitalism and the American dream, it's all based on greed.
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