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I own the 955 and the 2500k is so much better. But does it really make a difference? For me, no. I use a 60Hz single 1080p Monitor I already get above 60 FPS on pretty much every game at max settings, why would I need to go up to the 2500k? I also do a lot of video editing, graphic design and even some 3D modeling, I have no lag or performance issues with any of these programs.
For your purposes, I wouldn't spend the extra $150. And it's a lot more than $150, you will also need to by a P67, motherboard. And yes you can get an H67, but for the long run P67 is much better.
AMD motherboards such as the 870 series (MSI 870-G54) is a good one, are much cheaper then the SB motherboards.
    
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I think I might just go with 955 and Asus 6850... not sure if I have money for SSD though... cheap ones are too small and big enough ones are too expensive
you dont really need a SSD either, if you have spare money save it or spend it on a better gpu

My suggestion is a 560Ti best bang for the buck on the high-end, but you dont really need it either, the 6850 will do
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If you're building brand new, I'd definitely recommend going with the 2500K. It'll be worth it.
 
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BFBC2 is a poorly coded console port and you know it. We'll see with games actually developed with pc in mind.

Why is it that Damric's minimum fps are higher than yours? Clearly, with the amount you spent and the awesome superiority of Sandy, he shouldn't be able to touch you.
How is BC2 a poorly coded console port? It may not have been developed on PC first, but the engine definitely utilizes PC hardware nicely? Is it because it doesn't utilize your 6 cores fully? Or that it runs better on faster/newer hardware? That's a confusing statement you made.

It's not Like GTA4, where you get crap performance unless you have a quad clocked fairly high. The game will run decently on older hardware.
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How is BC2 a poorly coded console port? It may not have been developed on PC first, but the engine definitely utilizes PC hardware nicely? Is it because it doesn't utilize your 6 cores fully? Or that it runs better on faster/newer hardware? That's a confusing statement you made.

It's not Like GTA4, where you get crap performance unless you have a quad clocked fairly high. The game will run decently on older hardware.
It actually won't run very well on old HW, 'cause the physics calculations are pretty much the same with any graphics settings. But that isn't bad coding, that's a result of the gameplay. The game has certain features (destruction) that just don't run well on single/dual cores.
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I didn't bother to read the rest of the thread.

For the activities you have listed, an Athlon II x4 @3Ghz will perform EXACTLY the same as a Core i7 2600k @5Ghz. (I'd even say Ath II x2, but lets not go that low)

So
No, you do NOT need to spend the extra 400$, if you don't do anything CPU intensive on your PC. You will Not see a difference.

Whoever says otherwise is a fanboy newb
Thanks for the laugh, I needed that. I can guarantee my 2600k @ 5Ghz will decimate anything your AMD could possible throw at it. Before you even start to try to say i'm a fanboy, I came from AMD, best friend has an AMD 1090T BE and I rape his.

There is no comparison!
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And you basically described my PC usage, internet, office and gaming. Why isn't getting a good CPU worth the extra cash? I notice both you guys ripping on the "yes it's worth the extra" suggestion both have AMD CPU's. I hate throwing around the fanboy accusations, but come on, you're not helping here.
Let me explain this to you again, the gaming he will be doing on a 6850 will not see a noticable increase on a Sandy Bridge. Why spend money on something he won't notice, instead of something that he will? Fanboyism has nothing to do with anything unless your telling someone to waste money to have something they don't need. He would see a much bigger increase in performance spending that money elsewhere because a 6850 will never bottleneck on a 955. Capiche?
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Let me explain this to you again, the gaming he will be doing on a 6850 will not see a noticable increase on a Sandy Bridge. Why spend money on something he won't notice, instead of something that he will? Fanboyism has nothing to do with anything unless your telling someone to waste money to have something they don't need. He would see a much bigger increase in performance spending that money elsewhere because a 6850 will never bottleneck on a 955. Capiche?
I agree with this right here, no more thread needed. For gaming on a single 6850 or even a 6970 phenom 955 would be perfect as no huge gain would be seen from sandy. However, OP if you ever plan on going higher end cards and cross-firing then please consider the sandy bridge. I can point you in the direction of a great 700 dollar sandy rig. If you dont think you will ever need that power for gaming than ya save some cash. Keep in mind that I seriously doubt a single 6850 will be able to max future games like BF3 and still get above 60 FPS. I recommend a 6950 as best bang for buck, AMD has the best graphics cards right now IMO.

Then if you need the power unlock like Damn_smooth told me to do its a smart choice. Something to think about, Either way enjoy your new gaminf rig!
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haha op just don't want to let the argument side of this thread die.
dude just get him an amd chip, it won't make a single difference to him.

let me put it this way.
I built a computer for a friend, he got a 955 and it is currently at stock settings.
HE LOVES IT!!!. want to know why. because he has a computer more powerful then anything he has ever used before, and compared to his last computer, it will play anything he throws at it, even if they games are absolute maxed, and he isn't getting perfect, FPS, he is getting very playable FPS.
(yes, I know, huge run on sentence)
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I own the 955 and the 2500k is so much better. But does it really make a difference? For me, no. I use a 60Hz single 1080p Monitor I already get above 60 FPS on pretty much every game at max settings, why would I need to go up to the 2500k? I also do a lot of video editing, graphic design and even some 3D modeling, I have no lag or performance issues with any of these programs.
For your purposes, I wouldn't spend the extra $150. And it's a lot more than $150, you will also need to by a P67, motherboard. And yes you can get an H67, but for the long run P67 is much better.
AMD motherboards such as the 870 series (MSI 870-G54) is a good one, are much cheaper then the SB motherboards.
I meant $150 more for a 2500K + P8P67 board, as opposed to 955 + 870GX board

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you dont really need a SSD either, if you have spare money save it or spend it on a better gpu

My suggestion is a 560Ti best bang for the buck on the high-end, but you dont really need it either, the 6850 will do
Yeah I want the Asus GTX 560 Ti (Yes I like Asus because their service center is 20 minutes drive away XD)

But that is also almost $100 more...
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