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It's all about the FPI. FPI means Fins Per Inch. The lower the fins per inch, the more the radiator is suited to slower fans. There are plenty of reviews of fan speed vs. radiators out there - check out the ones on Skinneelabs, they make awesome graphs.

The XSPC do tend to be dearer however they're worth it. If you can't go that extra mile, the Swiftech MCR320 is an awesome radiator for the price. A friend of mine got one of those and he loves it. It'll be perfect for your components.

The one on Newegg probably isn't much good for that price. You didn't list the model number so I have no idea which one you're talking about.

The difference between AP-14's and AP-15's are the speeds. 14 is 1300 (?)ish RPM and the AP-15 is 1800. Saying this, though, I use a fan controller to turn my AP-15's down to 1500 RPM anyway. The AP-15 has a nicer noise, it sounds more gentle, in my opinion.

As for fittings & tubings, I went for compression fittings because they look good. You can go for barbs and clamps, it's completely up to you. The tubing size is also up to you - I always use 1/2" ID 3/4" OD because I find it looks better and is easy to work with. As for manufacturer, always PrimoFlex Pro LRT.

And remember, always use distilled water, do not get UV colourant. It gunks up water cooling components. Distilled water + PT_Nuke / Kill Coil + Tubing (UV tubing if you want it) is all you need.

Thanks on the tubing and fittings heads up. Compression fittings are probably more reliable right/ I can imagine clamps might crack the tubing over a long period of time.

About the radiators, exactly what makes the swiftech worse? Is it a flowrate question or what?
here is the link for the newegg Swiftech.
If I can get 30% more surface area, wouldn't that outweigh differences in quality?
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Thanks on the tubing and fittings heads up. Compression fittings are probably more reliable right/ I can imagine clamps might crack the tubing over a long period of time.

About the radiators, exactly what makes the swiftech worse? Is it a flowrate question or what?
here is the link for the newegg Swiftech.
If I can get 30% more surface area, wouldn't that outweigh differences in quality?
Nah, clamps are perfectly safe. In fact, in the grand scheme of things, clamps are probably safer. Compression fittings tend to leak more (or at least I've heard of more). Don't let this discourage you, though, if it leaks it'll be a trickle not like a dam overflowing.

I really can't answer the surface area question. You'd think so, but you'll have to check out individual reviews for each radiator. All I know is that the MCR320 is an awesome buy for its price.
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Nah, clamps are perfectly safe. In fact, in the grand scheme of things, clamps are probably safer. Compression fittings tend to leak more (or at least I've heard of more). Don't let this discourage you, though, if it leaks it'll be a trickle not like a dam overflowing.

I really can't answer the surface area question. You'd think so, but you'll have to check out individual reviews for each radiator. All I know is that the MCR320 is an awesome buy for its price.
Okay, thanks for continuing to help out. I think the Swiftech is still the best call since its about 30% more surface area at half the price.

I think for the CPU I want to go with an EK Supreme Block with a black acetal top but I can't decide between the copper and nickel versions. Does anyone recommend either? If I can't get a response, instinct dictates that the copper version would have better performance.

As for the pumps, are the MCP350/355 the best options? I want quiet, but those things are just so damn ugly.

ninja edit: From what I can tell, the AP 15s are not going to be cheap. It actually works out that the RS360 is the cheaper choice because it uses less fans, so I am going with that.
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So, components:



EK Supreme HF Black Acetal/Copper CPU Block - $73
XSPC Ultimate GPU Block - $60
3x GT AP-15s ~$60
XSPC RX360 Extreme - $85
Swiftech MCP350 - $55
6' Black PrimoFlex Pro LRT 1/2 ID 3/4 OD 0 - $13.5
Custom Reservoir

Questions:
1. Are these good prices?
2. Where is the best place to get the fans? All I could find was eBay, which I personally don't like.
3. Whatcha think?
4. I can't find a fan controller that people don't seem to hate for one reason or another. Anyone?
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