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Kaja that's a really nice overclock you got there! Id kill to have this quad get close to the 4Ghz mark! Im sure its performance at that speed would be really good
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Kaja that's a really nice overclock you got there! Id kill to have this quad get close to the 4Ghz mark! Im sure its performance at that speed would be really good
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Thank you for the guide ronnin. I've dabbled with CPU overclocking before but generally stuck to a very safe OC. With the help of you're guide I feel very satisfied that I've reached the potential of the chip.
The final values for my 260 3.2GHz are 248x16=3968MHz at 1.4875V. I am running the NB at 8x to give 1984MHz which is proving stable, but I'm unsure if there is any benefit of running this at 9x 2232MHz..
I did have a go with the memory (Corsair XMS3 1.6GHz), stepping the timings down from 9-9-9-24-34 to 8-8-8-22-30 resulted in the system not being able to get to BIOS.
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Yes, it is mutch better to run at x9, you might want to try at 10x as well, and raise the cpu nb to up to 1.3v, should be more than enough on the safe side
I've just done a quick bench with 8x, 9x and 10x with 1.125V, giving superpi 4M results of 103.03s, 102.17s and 100.95s respectively. It's stable enough for benching but I'll do a 4h+ stability test tonight to make sure.

Very nice smile.gif I'm glad you got such good results. And yes, as you've already seen, NB frequency matters smile.gif But make sure you double-check your max load temp, because going from 2000 to 2500 NB can give you good 10C more smile.gif
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My friends running a GTS450 1GB with DDR3 memeory. He's running a 17" monitor at 1440X900? Whats your guys opinion on the DDR3 equipped model?
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My friends running a GTS450 1GB with DDR3 memeory. He's running a 17" monitor at 1440X900? Whats your guys opinion on the DDR3 equipped model?

My first general opinion is that this thread is not the place for GPU-related questions smile.gif
My second general opinion is that GDDR5 is better, possibly noticably better on the 450. What's the bus width on that card? It's obviously not standard, as there shouldn't be DDR3 450's. If it's 192 or 256-bit, it's probably OK. If it's 128-bit, the GPU is bottlenecked by its own vRAM.
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Yes I do Apologise for that.... I was just going through the forum and I just popped the question...rolleyes.gif... And yes Its a 128bit bus. Max mem bandwidth is 27Gb/s
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Yes I do Apologise for that.... I was just going through the forum and I just popped the question...rolleyes.gif... And yes Its a 128bit bus. Max mem bandwidth is 27Gb/s

Well, let's say this - 450 is something in the lines of 10% slower than GTX550 Ti.
550Ti uses/needs 192-bit GDDR5 for a total of 98.4 Gbps.

So you have a GPU that is only 10% slower, but combined with 3.6 times lower memory bandwidth - I'd say that 450 is badly bottlenecked. What brand is it? Just out of curiosity smile.gif
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Um....... NINJA:thinking:????? Never heard of them....
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Originally Posted by Alastair View Post

Um....... NINJA:thinking:????? Never heard of them....

This thing:
http://www.e-shop.gr/show_per.phtml?id=PER.516609
? Reference design PCB and cooler, from the looks of it. They just slapped the cheap DDR3 in the place of GDDR5. Obviously some people at Ninja are more concerned with invisibility, walking on walls and other ninja stuff, than keeping their products free from bottlenecks smile.gif

BTW according to nVidia specs, the memory bandwidth on the GTS450 should be 57.7 Gbps.
27 is two times under norm.

So, advise to the poor soul that owns this card - no AA whatsoever, no OC on the core (it'd be meaningless) smile.gif And he should be fine up to 1440x900. Up to there, it should perform like any other GTS450.
Anything higher, or added AA, and the bottleneck would affect performance heavily.
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Yep. I've heard of chipset burning after as little as one step increase.

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