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post #21 of 29
is the PCI power plugged into the graphics card?

And if you are possitive about the heatsink being mounted well and you have tried removing all memory and installing one stick (you should try starting it with no memory...it will not POST of corse, but this will reset some things.)

I would then have to put my money on a bad PSU.
Edited by Vagrant Storm - 5/2/11 at 7:52am
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I don't have my motherboard now, i returned it to the store. Should i go and ask it back? The PCI power cables were plugged in. But why my psu works right now? I have a problem when i have more power needs (like my GPU)?
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could be that the hsf is mounted to tight. may also be that your nb chip might be bad. could also be that your cpu is dead. when my ram went out it started gettin slow and then finally just croaked and wouldnt post. when i finally killed my 550 it would freeze with an ff error on the display on the board. try removing the hard drives sometimes (very rarely) it can cause this. remove everything but one stick of ram and see if it posts and start adding things one at a time till it screws up. thats the best suggestion i have.
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For now, I'll try to find a system to test my GPU. Thank you all for your suggestions, but unfortunately I don't have my motherboard.
Before that problem started, i had on my system a friend's Q9400 (NO O/C) and his 6950 which i unlocked to 6970. Then i swapped back my 5830. Everything worked fine. Then i removed his cpu and his gpu, did a Clear CMOS, put in my CPU and GPU, and then the first time i tried to open it i got the problem. I rebuilt the system from scratch another time but nothing.
Could my power supply have failed because of the excessive load from the 6970?
Also, in the store, the guy said that he would give me credit (money, not cash, to buy whatever i want in the store), but he said my motherboard costs right now about 20-30 Euros, but i bought it for 70 Euros. Because i don't know about those things, i get the credit for the amount wrote on the receipt, or what the guy from the store says ?

(Very sorry for the long post)
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post #25 of 29
Did the 6970 damage the PSU? I am 99% certain it did not. Your 600w Seasonic should be able to drive either graphics card.

Try this:

1. Keeping your Power Supply in your friends system, put his 6970 back in and test with your CPU. If you fail in exact same manner as in your system it would point to your CPU.

NOTE:
Please do not be insulted but if it does fail make sure you have connectorized everything properly. Labled PCIEs to the GPU and especially the power connection that is usually near the card edge next to the CPU (4 or 8 pin jack) before you call the CPU bad. Most builders have overlooked that one at least once. And also, as you stated that you cleared CMOS, if you can make it to BIOS verify RAM and CPU settings are correctly identified and match required specs, etc.

2. Now, if you are able to boot normally with your CPU and with your friends GPU, let the system run for awhile and then restart it a few times. Also, shut down and cold boot a few times to be sure all is well. If it tests good this would point to your GPU as the bad part. If it performs OK try your 5830 in your friends machine one more time to be sure.

Parting Shot:
It is possible your power supply is happy with the 6970 but can't play nice with your 5830 but that seems highly unlikely to me. I simply do not believe your power supply is bad and will be very surprised if it is causing you all this misery. And you have quite a good friend there. Repay him with a nice bottle of Ouzo.
post #26 of 29
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Originally Posted by Albatross1991 View Post
Did the 6970 damage the PSU? I am 99% certain it did not. Your 600w Seasonic should be able to drive either graphics card.

Try this:

1. Keeping your Power Supply in your friends system, put his 6970 back in and test with your CPU. If you fail in exact same manner as in your system it would point to your CPU.

NOTE:
Please do not be insulted but if it does fail make sure you have connectorized everything properly. Labled PCIEs to the GPU and especially the power connection that is usually near the card edge next to the CPU (4 or 8 pin jack) before you call the CPU bad. Most builders have overlooked that one at least once. And also, as you stated that you cleared CMOS, if you can make it to BIOS verify RAM and CPU settings are correctly identified and match required specs, etc.

2. Now, if you are able to boot normally with your CPU and with your friends GPU, let the system run for awhile and then restart it a few times. Also, shut down and cold boot a few times to be sure all is well. If it tests good this would point to your GPU as the bad part. If it performs OK try your 5830 in your friends machine one more time to be sure.

Parting Shot:
It is possible your power supply is happy with the 6970 but can't play nice with your 5830 but that seems highly unlikely to me. I simply do not believe your power supply is bad and will be very surprised if it is causing you all this misery. And you have quite a good friend there. Repay him with a nice bottle of Ouzo.
That's were the problem is. My friend now has exactly the same problem as me, and it startes happening to me and him right after i put everything back to their places (my things in my computer etc.) I am COMPLETELY sure about the connections (and of course i cannot be insulted, everyone make mistakes)

If it helps:
First of all, he had a problem when he bought a new PSU. He brought his PSU over to my place to test it. It worked fine on my system.
His things connected on my motherboard were: CPU, RAM, GPU. All worked fine for about two hours.
Then i pulled of his CPU and RAM. Connected mine, it didn't work (the problem i state in the first post). I pulled off his GPU, connected mine, same problem. At all times i double-checked if the heatsink (i used Intel Stock, because my V8 is a pain in the ass), and cleared the CMOS when changing CPUs. Finally, i connected all my stuff on my motherboard. It didn't work. I thought the CPU. Connected a Pentium 4 (It is compatible, have ran before on this motherboard), it didn't work. Connected another GPU (8600GS), it didn't work. So, i thought it is the motherboard. I returned it to the store. (The guys there said they won't test it, they only spoke about replacing it). The only thing i am not sure about is the CPU and the GPU, and I do not have a system to test them on.
I will just wait for another motherboard, and i will see.
Sorry if this is exhausting to read, but it is the whole story.
Edited by tasospaok123 - 5/3/11 at 4:44am
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post #27 of 29
When you find out for sure what is causing this problem please post the results here. Myself and perhaps others would be interested to know how things turned out.

An earlier question you asked regarding the store not offering you a full refund on a defective motherboard which is still under warranty is unexceptable. I would speak to store management about this unfair policy. And the fact that they refused to even test the motherboard for you is the final straw. I would no longer do business with this particular retail store and I would warn others to avoid them as well.
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Thank you very much, for letting me know that. But, even though, it is very difficult to find a s775 DDR2 motherboard (Said the guy from the store) it has been about a week now. My luckiest chance is that the CPU is messed up too. Then i will have enough refund to buy a newer motherboard and a CPU (Probably AMD)...
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Bump.
Story ended. The motherboard is broken, i will check the CPU in a month or so and in about two months i will be stepping to AMD...

Also, PSU works fine, Both sticks of RAM work fine, GPU is fine.
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