Originally Posted by Xristo
the d14 is a good cooler tho the h50/70 has alot more potential to get temps down .. easy to mod , after lapping my cpu and the h50 + as5 and a 3krpm push fan i get mid 60's load temps @ 4.2ghz , 1.4v in 19-20c ambient temps . idle is 30/29/28/27 . i would never replace my h50 for a d14 , id love to see some 4.2ghz load temps @ 1.4v on a d14 i bet easily 80+c within seconds unless of coarse its modded ? still hydro coolers are leaps and bounds better than any traditional heatsink if you know wat your doing the H series are incredible coolers .. too many ppl are biased without knowing anything , heatsinks are old news their capabilities are limited .
You know, I was gonna take you seriously until you said you were using AS5. I mean all that effort to get the best out of your H50 and you go for old decent paste. Couldn't spend around $10 or so to get some IC Diamond 7, or Shin Etsu? Fact of the matter is, all hybrid water coolers are purely niche products reserved for people who want to minimize space used inside the case. Fact is, big clunky air coolers can cost as much if not cheaper varying than them and perform better and can be quieter too. If you honestly think your almighty H50 can't beat a D14 with same clocks/voltage/ambient, you're drinking the Kool-aid provided by Corsair/Asetek.
It's OK to defend your choice, but when it gets in the way of logic. Everyone knows that top end air beats out top end water in performance/noise/price. Look at the Antec Kuhler H20 920, costs as much as a Rasa kit and barely beats the H70 while being louder than just about anything else.
Heatsinks are old news, but it doesn't matter, they will be used and are far more reliable than hybrid water cooling despite how well it's advanced. With Antec/Corsair's offerings, there's a small but extremely rare
chance of a leak, most people don't want to risk that. Until graphene technology is perfected and used in fabrication processes for future cpu's, gpu's, etc most people would stick to this old technology.
I have no beef with the hybrid water coolers either. They fit a purpose, but I don't think they'll beat top end air yet until they manage to match everything in price/performance/noise.