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Hey Phat. I just installed mine a while ago and had no problems at all but I do have 11.3 AMD drivers installed because of my 5770 and had no problem whatsoever.

It is your Nvidia Drivers. i had the same problem when I switched from a GT240 to the 5770 in my sig. Then I figured out I should uninstall the Nvidia drivers firts lol.
It's not drivers, when the machine won't even POST.
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What difference does it make with what PCIe slot he uses? It's still going to have the same problem, its lack of power.
*sigh* Dude, what I'm saying is that the PCIe slot could be causing the problem. In terms that might make more sense to you, the PCIe slot could not be providing enough power.
    
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*sigh* Dude, what I'm saying is that the PCIe slot could be causing the problem. In terms that might make more sense to you, the PCIe slot could not be providing enough power.
And where do you think the power comes from on the PCIe slots? It's shared between both of the x16 slots anyway. If one's not working, the other will more than likely not work as well.

It COULD be the issue, yes. Is it likely? No.

The 5830 draws a decent amount more power at startup than the 8800 G92's did. The 8800's draw more under a full load, yes (which is why I'm surprised that TP3 is still alive). But at STARTUP, the 5830 draws more, and that's where he's having problems.
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Did I miss a post where OP maybe tried uninstalling nvidia and any ati drivers, run driver sweeper, then tried to install card then ati drivers?

I'm not against getting new stuff if it seems that could be the issue, but to spend more money when ALL other options haven't been exhausted seems kinda speedy.

It's still the OP's money and time that is at stake, so I guess it's really only up to him.

Good luck, and I hope you post back if/when you get it solved so we can know what did do it.
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Again, its not drivers when the machine won't even POST with the new card installed. Drivers aren't an issue until after POST.
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And where do you think the power comes from on the PCIe slots? It's shared between both of the x16 slots anyway. If one's not working, the other will more than likely not work as well.

It COULD be the issue, yes. Is it likely? No.

The 5830 draws a decent amount more power at startup than the 8800 G92's did. The 8800's draw more under a full load, yes (which is why I'm surprised that TP3 is still alive). But at STARTUP, the 5830 draws more, and that's where he's having problems.
So you see how telling him to go get a new PSU without trying the other slot is like me telling him to go get a new MOBO without checking the PSU right?
    
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So you see how telling him to go get a new PSU without trying the other slot is like me telling him to go get a new MOBO without checking the PSU right?
And if you would have read the thread, I told him that if the PSU doesn't do the trick, he can always return it. He's buying it locally at Microcenter.

And he needs a new PSU anyway. The Antec TP3 550 was a mediocre at best unit when it was new 5 years ago.
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And if you would have read the thread, I told him that if the PSU doesn't do the trick, he can always return it. He's buying it locally at Microcenter.

And he needs a new PSU anyway. The Antec TP3 550 was a mediocre at best unit when it was new 5 years ago.

See, thats what I am talking about right there. He "needs" a new PSU because his current one is 5 years old. That kind of mindless consumption is what is responsible for destroying our planet.
    
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See, thats what I am talking about right there. He "needs" a new PSU because his current one is 5 years old. That kind of mindless consumption is what is responsible for destroying our planet.
The 5830 draws around 300w with the entire system being used (it was 384, I'm rounding down a bunch to add efficiency in there).

His PSU was only capable of putting out 500w PEAK POWER when it was new (which is closer to around 350w of actual power...when new). That was 5 years ago. The parts have deteriorated over time (PSU's do that), thus the unit is no longer capable of producing that kind of power anymore.

And since his system now draws that much power just to start it, he NEEDS a PSU that can properly start the machine.

Again, its like saying that a 5 year old Raidmax 650w is still fine for his system today (not quite to that extreme though). The Antec TP3 lineup was mediocre at best when it was new. Again, its NOT capable of his system as it sat before his upgrade. And now, its showing that problem.

And when the TP3's were overdrawn...they didn't shut off nicely. They pop, and they take components with them.

I'm telling him to get a new PSU to save him the hassle of having other parts fail in the VERY near future. Saving him potentially hundreds of dollars for replacement parts (or weeks of RMA time).
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Bought a new Antec gamer 620w. Put in card and turn her on.

NOTHING. Still does not work. I think the card is bad. I removed all nvidia drivers with
driver sweeper. I am going to try and update the bios one last thing..
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