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Can I copy my boot drive data from a SataII HD to a SataIII 6gb/s drive?

My mother board (Asus P7P55D-E PRO) has native Sata II/III and USB 3.0, however.. for some reason when I ordered my HD I ordered a SataII (3gb/s). This was a couple months ago and I never got back around to it until now...

Is it possible to copy my boot drive- a 1tb Seagate Barracuda SATAII 3gb/s, to a 1tb Seagate Barracuda SATAIII 6gb/s?

I have a drive copier, and the extra SATAIII hard drive. I should just try it, but I'd like to see what others have to say about it before I do something retarded. CAN THIS BE DONE?

My worst windows experience rating is obviously the hard drive @ 5.9. Everything else is 7.5 and 7.7...

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Edited by UrbannGuerilla - 5/10/11 at 8:26am
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Just use your drive copier to take an image of the Sata 3.0 drive and apply it to the 6.0 drive.

Once that is done, it would be awesome if you would make a video of boot times from each drive, and a few screenshots of some hard drive benchmarks.
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Just use your drive copier to take an image of the Sata 3.0 drive and apply it to the 6.0 drive.

Once that is done, it would be awesome if you would make a video of boot times from each drive, and a few screenshots of some hard drive benchmarks.
It didn't work. I thought you were telling me because you knew it would work! I put my 3Gb/s drive back in and it works fine..

It tried to load windows but it stuck at the black background with slightly "moving" windows icon.

Does anyone know if this type of transfer is even possible without buying a new copy of windows? I'm not asking for anything illegal. I only need one drive in service, I'm not duplicating drives for different computers or anything stupid. (Which I assume is not possible anymore) I just want to take the 3Gb/s drive out and replace it w/ the 6 Gb/s drive to increase performance some.

Help?
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Plug both drives in, use clonezilla to do a drive to drive copy, unplug the slower drive, profit.

On another note, I highly doubt you will see any improvement in speed. A Barracuda will not even get close to saturating SATA II.

http://clonezilla.org/
 
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Plug both drives in, use clonezilla to do a drive to drive copy, unplug the slower drive, profit.

On another note, I highly doubt you will see any improvement in speed. A Barracuda will not even get close to saturating SATA II.

http://clonezilla.org/
What drives would you suggest? WD Caviar Black?
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If you can afford it why not go with a ssd?
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Oddly enough, the cloning was successful and the windows experience rating did NOT change with the 6gb/s drive installation. (still 5.9)

I didn't get a SSD because I can't afford a 300gb SSD to fit everything on it, and I don't know how to just separate windows from all the other information on the drive.

I suppose if I wanted to start all over with a new windows installation I would opt for a SSD, but I really just wanted a drive performance boost. So now I'm not even sure why I went through all this trouble for a drive that does not appear to do anything better than the 3Gb/s drive.

As to to what Imrac said... ARE there any 7200rpm disk drives that WOULD show an increase in performance? I went to the Barracuda 6gb/s because my original 3gb/s drive was also a Barracuda. I didnt know if the drives had certain "special" instructions for different manufacturers so I didn't want to cross those lines. (ie.. Barracuda instructions going on a Barracuda drive vs. on a WD Caviar Black) Was I wrong in that line of thought?

I'm kind of bummed that it shows almost no improvement. The drive rating on Sandra went up 2 pts from a 101.xx to 103.xx. Woop de doo. Is it possible I missed something that would "enable" the performance? Would a WD Cav. Black work as a clone and/or be faster?
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There are only a couple of mechanical hard drives that can even saturate a SATA 1 controller and none can even get close to saturating a SATA2 or 3 controller and it's doubtful they ever will.

As a test I installed Win 7 in Raid 0 on a pair of short stroked Seagate Constellation.2 SATA 3 hard drives and that didn't change the Windows performance index from the 5.9 it got with a single drive. Raid 0 with 3 of them did raise it to 6.4, but that was at 300MB/s. A single drive was only 120 while 2 in Raid 0 was about 225.

As long as you stay with a single mechanical hard drive you will never be able to feel the difference between any of the better ones available. You will see an improvement in benchmarks, but you won't really notice it in real world usage unless you are migrating from an older slower drive. To be able to feel the difference you'll need to go with a good SSD. It's also easy to move the Documents folder from the OS drive to a second drive to increase storage space for downloads, documents, media files, etc. Takes all of about 60 seconds if you do it right after installing Windows.
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There are only a couple of mechanical hard drives that can even saturate a SATA 1 controller and none can even get close to saturating a SATA2 or 3 controller and it's doubtful they ever will.

As a test I installed Win 7 in Raid 0 on a pair of short stroked Seagate Constellation.2 SATA 3 hard drives and that didn't change the Windows performance index from the 5.9 it got with a single drive. Raid 0 with 3 of them did raise it to 6.4, but that was at 300MB/s. A single drive was only 120 while 2 in Raid 0 was about 225.

As long as you stay with a single mechanical hard drive you will never be able to feel the difference between any of the better ones available. You will see an improvement in benchmarks, but you won't really notice it in real world usage unless you are migrating from an older slower drive. To be able to feel the difference you'll need to go with a good SSD. It's also easy to move the Documents folder from the OS drive to a second drive to increase storage space for downloads, documents, media files, etc. Takes all of about 60 seconds if you do it right after installing Windows.
I suppose this reply brings me to a different set of questions. ^^

I know this is an opinion by most and factual by a few that have ran the "numbers".

What is the "best bang for your buck" SSD? AND,...

Is "write" performance something I need to greatly consider? I've saw on other posts that if you want to use a SSD for Win7 & programs only then it is mostly a "reading" affair and write performance would have very little impact on usage.

I'm asking this because I have saw SOME SSDs with around 225 read and a 225write, and other SSDs with around a 325 read and a 115 write speed. (OCZ/Crucial)
IF I want to use the SSD for windows and maybe some programs which example of the above drives would most benefit me- 225 read/write OR 325-125 read/write?

IS write speed something that I should put decision weight into, or would that only apply to SSD's I planned on using for data storage? (ie: documents & libraries).

I hope this made sense to someone as it spewed out of my mind and onto my fingers.
Edited by UrbannGuerilla - 5/10/11 at 8:44am
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