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So this summer I have an internship out in the middle of nowhere and i'm not allowed to work more than 9-5pm, so that leaves for a lot of boring nights. Time to get back into online gaming! I've got a budget of around $1600 excluding monitor, and I really wanna try my hand at building a sweet gaming computer. I've trolled a little around here before but never registered until now.

From what i've read on here i'm trying to peice together those 'bang for buck' kind of components that are like 40% of the price but offer 80% of the performance of the top-of-the-line stuff. Here is the build i've come up so far, all criticism appreciated! There are a lot of subtleties to PC building and this is my first time ever.

Motherboard
ASUS P8P67 PRO (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Processor
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor
Video Card
MSI R6950 Twin Frozr II OC Radeon HD 6950 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
RAM
Patriot Gamer 2 Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model PGD38G1600ELK
Tower
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811133100
HDD
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F4 HD204UI 2TB 5400 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
SSD
OCZ Vertex 3 Series – MAX IOPS Edition VTX3MI-25SAT3-120G 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
PSU
CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-850TX 850W ATX12V v2.2 / EPS12V v2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
CPU Cooler
CORSAIR Hydro H70 CWCH70 120mm High Performance CPU Cooler
Optical Drive
SONY Black 12X BD-R 2X BD-RE 8X DVD+R 5X DVD-RAM 8X BD-ROM 8MB Cache SATA Blu-ray Burner BD-5300S-0B - OEM

All together this puts me at $1716.42 on newegg, its over budget but all the components seem like they are high quality and should last me for the next 3-4 years? Am I missing anything (other than an OS which I get a student discount on Win 7 through my school) or will this do it?

Also, at some point I would like to crossfire a second 6950 if the single one starts to have trouble with new games and as the price goes down. Will the 850W power supply keep up with two 6950's? Will heat be a major problem with two 6950's? I would love to watercool the GPUs as well but that doesn't look like a very easy task at all and a lot of creative mounting of giant heat exchangers and as a first time I don't think I'm ready for custom setups.

Any and all advice appreciated! Thanks!
post #2 of 21
Thats a great looking build, 850 watts is definitely enough, theres someone who runs an i7 920 at 4.2ghz and 2 unlocked 6950s with a tx750. You're not missing anything so you're good to go.
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Hey There! Wish I had the time You will be having! I have some ideas for discussion:
1: Chassis
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Originally Posted by zdub303 View Post
Interesting case choice. However, I am just curious as to why You chose this case over others. $200USD for a Non-Corsair 800D is a brings to the "why This one?" question. If You are looking for 1)A Full Tower Case with 2)Sufficient Airflow and 3)Clearance for Larger GPUs, there may be less expensive options.

Antec Twelve-Hundred v3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129100

Antec DF-85 Black
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129087

Just a few other options...?

2: Optical Drive
Quote:
Originally Posted by zdub303 View Post
Optical Drive
SONY Black 12X BD-R 2X BD-RE 8X DVD+R 5X DVD-RAM 8X BD-ROM 8MB Cache SATA Blu-ray Burner BD-5300S-0B - OEM
Unless You are very, and I mean VERY, set on having Blue-Ray capability in Your rig, I think this is (in my opinion) a money sink. $16USD can get You a DVD-RW Drive that will serve Your purposes for most gaming needs, and save You some cash on the side.

3: Power Consumption Questions

Your power supply looks beefy enough to tackle Your CF desires. Especially seeing how You are running off the 1155 socket (overclocking will not be as volt-spendy as older sockets), only have 1 platter drive, and are not trying to do some crazy fan arrangements - You will be fine!
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See my build?

Copy it.

Win.
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post #5 of 21
I'd ditch the h70 for the noctua D14, recently seen a vid on here where the d14 'crushes' the h70 (difference in temps were almost unreal, personally I think it would be more like 5/10c).

EDIT: Other than that awesome choices good luck
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post #6 of 21
Looks like a hot rod,

Only thing I would really look at is the memory selection

These would do much nicer, no need for 8gb

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231450


And the blue would fit right in with the Pro board
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post #7 of 21
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Awesome! Glad I posted on here, looks like a lot of good ideas for changing my build.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cloudbreaker View Post
Hey There! Wish I had the time You will be having! I have some ideas for discussion:
1: Chassis

Interesting case choice. However, I am just curious as to why You chose this case over others. $200USD for a Non-Corsair 800D is a brings to the "why This one?" question. If You are looking for 1)A Full Tower Case with 2)Sufficient Airflow and 3)Clearance for Larger GPUs, there may be less expensive options.

Antec Twelve-Hundred v3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129100

Antec DF-85 Black
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129087

Just a few other options...?

2: Optical Drive


Unless You are very, and I mean VERY, set on having Blue-Ray capability in Your rig, I think this is (in my opinion) a money sink. $16USD can get You a DVD-RW Drive that will serve Your purposes for most gaming needs, and save You some cash on the side.

3: Power Consumption Questions

Your power supply looks beefy enough to tackle Your CF desires. Especially seeing how You are running off the 1155 socket (overclocking will not be as volt-spendy as older sockets), only have 1 platter drive, and are not trying to do some crazy fan arrangements - You will be fine!
With respect to the case, I just picked that one cause I thought it looked cool. If there are ways to save some dough in the department and have a nice case i'm all for it. I'll definitely check out those cases you listed.

On the optical drive... I was thinking maybe just having a BD burner for the future but atm since im already over budget I think you're right that a cheaper DVD reader/Writer is the way to go.

Power... good! I think the 850 will work good and give me options for the future. I don't wanna go overkill but I also don't want to have to upgrade my PSU down the road if I don't have to.



Quote:
Originally Posted by AdmRose View Post
See my build?

Copy it.

Win.
Looks like i'm somewhat parallel with your build, i'll check out the stuff in your build and see how they compare to what I had originally picked, thanks!

Quote:
Originally Posted by munaim1 View Post
I'd ditch the h70 for the noctua D14, recently seen a vid on here where the d14 'crushes' the h70 (difference in temps were almost unreal, personally I think it would be more like 5/10c).

EDIT: Other than that awesome choices good luck
Really? I read so many good reviews I figured that H70 would already be overkill lol. I've read quite a bit on here that people have to remove their air-coolers everytime they need to touch anything, only reason I was considering that H70, seems like its a little lower profile and the radiator is more out of the way.

Okay just looked it up on newegg.. good lord that thing is massive! I'll read some more reviews on it and try to dig up that comparo... thanks!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Witchdoctor View Post
Looks like a hot rod,

Only thing I would really look at is the memory selection

These would do much nicer, no need for 8gb

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231450


And the blue would fit right in with the Pro board
Wow that ram is a good deal more expensive but the 2133 is a good deal higher than the 1600 patriot I was looking at. That RAM seems very popular on here, I think i'll make the switch with the money I save by switching out the BD drive. Thanks!
post #8 of 21
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Another question for you guys. Now pretty much every single motherboard I look at under the P67 chipset as 2 pcie 2.0 expansion slots that run x16 single or dual x8/x8. Will it even be worth it down the road to run two 6950s at x8/x8? Will that bottleneck the video cards at all?
post #9 of 21
Install the cpu and heatsink before you install the board in the case.That's the best hint I have for someone who has never built a pc before.
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post #10 of 21
HAF 932 with blue LED fans
HAF 932 with USB 3.0
HAF X

Both the 932 and X have great cooling and cable management, and cheaper than the thermaltake. Though some people don't like the looks. =)

Also, unless you're sure you'll need 8GB RAM, you might want to opt for 4 or 6 instead. I have 6 and I don't think I've ever seen more than 50% usage.
Edited by Daggerfist - 4/30/11 at 10:42am
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