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post #21 of 29
May 11th will be the day we know if AMD is stupid for not at least giving ARM a try.

Then again, I think even Intel has given up on ARM and maybe trying to see what they can do with x86, Medfield isn't a bad attempt.
post #22 of 29
Considering Intel traded off not charging AMD for x86 licensing in the law suit settlement for x years ( I think it was 5) along with the cash settlement, why would AMD endure adding a costly license agreement with ARM.
    
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what's with all the rage about ARM? i don't see ARM competing with x86 in desktop space anytime soon. plus, windows 8 isn't out yet. we need version of windows which support ARM out first, then AMD might consider.
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What is wrong with not going the ARM route? Honestly, x86 is fine. When you develop an OS however, something as demanding as Vista/7 running on a component that is equivalent to a Pentium 3 processor makes x86 not be an ideal solution. Frankly, if the phone OS was as demanding of Windows 95/98 then the performance per watt of x86 won't be all that bad would it?

AMD's focus on the APU gives a very much needed boost in performance. Llano is looking amazing. If they scale that down to a few watts, would the performance still be better then ARM?

The tablet I'm on uses more then 20 Watts and lasts 4-5 hours. It isn't as thin as an Ipad, but it offers a much better experience then iOS and Android. I would much rather have something like the ASUS transformer with llano that seriously declocks itself when not connected to the base with windows 7 then Android and tegra 2.
post #25 of 29
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Originally Posted by Track;13332105 
I don't think your recollection of history is too good.

AMD purchased ATi in the end of 2006.
Before that, ATi was succeeding very well with their X1900 series.

At the same time, nVidia launched their G80 GPU - the first DX10 GPU. AMD will not recover from this fully until 2011.

Scrambling to make something sell-able, having no cash left, they created the half-assed R600, a complete failure and 7 months too late.

They then took another 6 months and created the Rv670, a simple die shrink.

In 2008, they made the R700, the HD 4870, which saved them a lot of grief.

But it wasn't until 2011 that ATi gained the performance crown for the first time since being bought by AMD, with the HD 6990 defeating the GTX 590.

5xxx cards put AMD/ATI on top, 2009, with the 5970 being king of the heap. yessir.gif
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post #26 of 29
I don't mind now since they're all focused on Bulldozer but after, I think it wouldn't hurt to get a license for ARM.
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But they didn't really gain back the marketshare they lost to Nvidia until the HD5000 series, and they may not have even succeeded then except for the colossal catastrophe that was the Fermi launch.

If I remember correctly, didn't AMD sell like 15 million cards before Fermi was even released? If it Fermi would've been the cat's meow, AMD still would've considered their cards a success.
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post #28 of 29
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Originally Posted by Licht;13331700 
I really wish AMD would at least pick up an ARM division. Wouldn't hurt.


do you think they have the money to waste on something that isnt good enough .. and yet can be soon filled by their apu approach????
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I don't mind now since they're all focused on Bulldozer but after, I think it wouldn't hurt to get a license for ARM.


die shrinks + apu's would be more than efficient for the tablet task

and a very efficient single core low power apu design could be made for smart phones in a near future ... i have no doubt intel could do it and amd too ... so why pay for an arm license when the arm market is allready crowded + the x86 license agreement in the lawsuit that THE_DUKE mentioned makes it stupid to go after a license that you have to pay at least for a couple of years ... and maybe by then and maybe by then it wouldnt be a bad thing .. but by then they will have smaller transistors to make x86 way more appropriate for ultra low power use
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Originally Posted by The Duke;13341333 
Considering Intel traded off not charging AMD for x86 licensing in the law suit settlement for x years ( I think it was 5) along with the cash settlement, why would AMD endure adding a costly license agreement with ARM.

Your question will go ignored by all these arm chair critics who think they know how to run AMD.
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