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Its not , silver arrow is a good cooler but id rather a h70 .

just cos one person thinks so , does not mean its true .. with a h70 and some good push pull fans i can see you getting 5ghz quite easily .
lol so SA with stock fans that pretty much trade blows with a h70 is worse?

so with an h70, you have to invest in some better fans in order for it to beat the SA?

lol. fail logic is fail.

it's more fair to say they trade blows, not one is better than another as both have their own pros and cons.
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Its not , silver arrow is a good cooler but id rather a h70 .

just cos one person thinks so , does not mean its true .. with a h70 and some good push pull fans i can see you getting 5ghz quite easily .
You can do that with any top end air or hybrid water, or real water cooling system. The 2500k and 2600k are very easy to OC and can tolerate voltages/heat better than many other CPU's from both Intel and AMD. The inherent fallacy of your recommendation is that you are implying the stock fans on the H70 may not be sufficient enough making it where the person would have to spend well beyond $96+ (newegg and amazon got it priced for $96) for the H70 and an extra amount for better fans (IE: GT AP-15's or others) to make it work. Say you spend $40+ more just to add 2 AP-15's, that'd make total cost to like $126+ for it. It ends up costing as much as a Antec Kuhler 920 or an entry level Rasa kit.

Or a person can spend less than $90 and get a Silver Arrow or NH-D14 and not have to bother with getting other fans since their stock fans are quiet and do amazingly well with their respective coolers, and those do better than the H70 in all areas EXCEPT for how much space occupied in a case and possibly RAM compatibility.
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h70, isnt going to help thats for sure. You could zip tie a 120mmx38mm fan to it. Or even two 120mmx38mm fans. It would help more than any other upgrade for the price. Just will have more noise as a new issue.
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Its not , silver arrow is a good cooler but id rather a h70 .

just cos one person thinks so , does not mean its true .. with a h70 and some good push pull fans i can see you getting 5ghz quite easily .
Its actually not just one person claiming this. There's a lot of people that have done the research and come to the same conclusion. The Silver Arrow CAN cool better than the H70. CAN.This is, of course, depending on ambient temps, type of Fans used, case airflow, and TIM used, as well as several other factors.
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lol so SA with stock fans that pretty much trade blows with a h70 is worse?

so with an h70, you have to invest in some better fans in order for it to beat the SA?

lol. fail logic is fail.

it's more fair to say they trade blows, not one is better than another as both have their own pros and cons.
You could say they trade blow's..but they dont. S/A and d-14 trade blow's. Both trump all hybrid water systems. Hybrid water coolers have a time and place its not high end cooling, you can lap the daylight's out of it and use good paste and get great results but nothing compared to just putting in a S/A or D-14 and leaving it alone. Read review's if you dont trust me. There is one crap review about the silver arrow, and its bogus.
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You could say they trade blow's..but they dont. S/A and d-14 trade blow's. Both trump all hybrid water systems. Hybrid water coolers have a time and place its not high end cooling, you can lap the daylight's out of it and use good paste and get great results but nothing compared to just putting in a S/A or D-14 and leaving it alone. Read review's if you dont trust me. There is one crap review about the silver arrow, and its bogus.
Im saying what he said about the h70 beating the SA was bogus. Anybody with a brain knows that the SA and D14 trade blows, im just saying it's more fair for that guy to say the SA and H70 trade blows rather than the H70 demolishing it, because some people r stubborn like that

But i didnt want to make him look like an idiot, but it's too late for that. People already did.
    
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Im saying what he said about the h70 beating the SA was bogus. Anybody with a brain knows that the SA and D14 trade blows, im just saying it's more fair for that guy to say the SA and H70 trade blows rather than the H70 demolishing it, because some people r stubborn like that

But i didnt want to make him look like an idiot, but it's too late for that. People already did.
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Its not , silver arrow is a good cooler but id rather a h70 .

just cos one person thinks so , does not mean its true .. with a h70 and some good push pull fans i can see you getting 5ghz quite easily .
Actually, there are a few reviews but here is one from Xbit Labs.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coo...air-h70_5.html

Here's another form [H]ard|OCP. While it does not do a direct comparioson with the H70 It does give a good readout on the temps against other coolers.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/..._unit_review/4

There are several other reviews as well. Seriously, be objective. Don't be a fanboi.
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Personally I think the H70 is better if you live in a place with high ambient temperatures(Forsay Africa with searing heat all day) so the H70 can provide better temps there_ But if you were to live in a place like Alaska( Burrow, Alaska to be exact, damn cold place) The Silver Arrow or DH-14 will be better_

I get the feeling that traditional heatsinks tend to be more affected by Ambient temperatures than any water cooling setup(Either full loop or like the H70) Of course everything is affected by ambient temperatures but when you really think about it, the traditional heatsinks will be affected by it on a higher scale_
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Personally I think the H70 is better if you live in a place with high ambient temperatures(Forsay Africa with searing heat all day) so the H70 can provide better temps there_ But if you were to live in a place like Alaska( Burrow, Alaska to be exact, damn cold place) The Silver Arrow or DH-14 will be better_

I get the feeling that traditional heatsinks tend to be more affected by Ambient temperatures than any water cooling setup(Either full loop or like the H70) Of course everything is affected by ambient temperatures but when you really think about it, the traditional heatsinks will be affected by it on a higher scale_
Its a passive cooler none the less. H50/60/70 dont cool any better in hotter temps than in cold temps when comparing the two(Air to hybrid water)... There are air coolers that out performance them, regaurdless of the ambiant temps.
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