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I've noticed that there are a lot of people out there who firmly believe that the reference cooler is the way to go. Part of the reason for this is because the TFII fans aren't set optimally out of the box. Once they're tweaked (using Afterburner) to only run at 40% when idle (rather than god knows how loud they go beforehand) and to have a more gradual fan speed increase curve when under load, they are the most quiet air cooler 560ti at the moment. The cooler is also effective enough at removing the heat to not suffer under the lower fan speeds.
From what I've been able to gather by reading here and on a few other boards, is that most of the people that try to make the claim FOR the reference card/cooler, it's because they say it vents the heat OUT the rear plate of the card rather than releasing the heat INSIDE your case. OK, this might be true to some extent, but then again the rear plate opening isn't particularly large so I would assume this is actually a poor design/form of ventilation and some of the heat does radiate back into the case even with the reference card/cooler design. Therefore IF this is true, wouldn't you be better off cooling down the GPU chip and card components with a better functioning cooler design, like the MSI TwinFrozr's or ASUS DCUII's that both claim 20% improved cooling over stock referenced cards, and then install another case fan to vent the case better if you're so worried about it ?

In short, what I was trying to say is ... I think the reference card/cooler design having less heat inside the case argument is BUNK.

EDIT : Heh ! and then I go and BUY ONE in the TOXIC ... go figure

Edited by LA_Kings_Fan - 10/9/11 at 9:28pm
   
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When I check CPU level up it just shows auto, 4.2ghz, and 4.6ghz. Am I miss something here?
That's the only settings I changed and I run 4.6

Try a reset to factory then change to 4.2 or 4.6 and it should run flawless like mine... no need to change settings here and there then test all night for stability.
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That's the only settings I changed and I run 4.6

Try a reset to factory then change to 4.2 or 4.6 and it should run flawless like mine... no need to change settings here and there then test all night for stability.
Ah, Thanks. I set mine to 4.2ghz and everything seems fine. Gonna run Intel Burn Test and see how it performs
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You will love it, I have two in SLI and it's plenty of power for today's games. I would love to have had a single slot dual GPU solution, but it's hard to justify $500+ for one when my setup is just as good.
Well DAMN utnorris, you must have a BIG case or don't have the MSI Lightning's ?
I just got my card and IF it was JUST a 480 GTX I think I wouldn't even have an issue, a normal 480 is 10.5" x 4.4" x 1.5", but the MSI Lightning is 12" x 5" x 1.8", and I'm not 100% sure just yet, it looks like it just might fit in there in the small space between the HDD cage and the PersonalMedia portable HDD Drive Bay cage in my HP case ... but NO WAY can I SLI a second one in there. I might have to send it back to NewEgg ... and that would suck because I found I qualify for the Rebate even being an OPEN BOX item, so this card WOULD be only $220.00 in the end.
   
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If you talk about fan loudness please keep always in mind that those airmovers on the vga cards are always the lousiest and loudest ones.
All of my other fans are almost silent but when i'm starting BC2 the noise level is multiplied.

I've already thinking about rebuilding my vga card but these two facts hold me off doing this:
1) The vga card is always the short-lived part of all my pcs - most times i'm leaving off one generation and then i get me always the next one, ok i switched e.g. from 1900XTX to HD4870 and now HD5870
2) I'm using headphones whilst playing

Has anyone besides of those water cooling guys already made some fan changing experiences on vga cards?
I did



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post #1736 of 7112
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Asus DCII and MSI TFII are way better than reference cooler, just fyi
Actually, that is NOT the case, when we are talking about the 560TI. (with the 6950, you would be right)

Just look at this youtube vid:


Noise test at the end of the vid. The difference is pretty clear, and the DCUII is just the same in terms of noise, as the TFII.

And there is more reason:
Here, the the normal EVGA 560TI FPB with refcooler costs 190 EUR, while the TFII is 240 (DCUII is about the same, and out of stock. It is never worth that difference.
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From what I've been able to gather by reading here and on a few other boards, is that most of the people that try to make the claim FOR the reference card/cooler, it's because they say it vents the heat OUT the rear plate of the card rather than releasing the heat INSIDE your case. OK, this might be true to some extent, but then again the rear plate opening isn't particularly large so I would assume this is actually a poor design/form of ventilation and some of the heat does radiate back into the case even with the reference card/cooler design. Therefore IF this is true, wouldn't you be better off cooling down the GPU chip and card components with a better functioning cooler design, like the MSI TwinFrozr's or ASUS DCUII's that both claim 20% improved cooling over stock referenced cards, and then install another case fan to vent the case better if you're so worried about it ?

In short, what I was trying to say is ... I think the reference card/cooler design having less heat inside the case argument is BUNK.
The ref cooler on the 560TI exhausts only a part of the heat to the rear. But at least a part of it, while the TFII and DCUII none. This DOES matter, in a mATX case for example, where the airflow is not optimal. And we didnt yet spoke about CF or SLI, where the cards are right next to each other... there you have the reason for rear exhaust
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I've noticed that there are a lot of people out there who firmly believe that the reference cooler is the way to go. Part of the reason for this is because the TFII fans aren't set optimally out of the box. Once they're tweaked (using Afterburner) to only run at 40% when idle (rather than god knows how loud they go beforehand) and to have a more gradual fan speed increase curve when under load, they are the most quiet air cooler 560ti at the moment. The cooler is also effective enough at removing the heat to not suffer under the lower fan speeds.
Ive read, that Afterburner has problems with PB (BSOD, lockups). Dont know if thats still the case, but since Battlefield games are using PB, it would be a no go for me. Would be happier with a card, that works well right out of the box, for the money...
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I did
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Wow, m8! Thanks but isn't it dubious to setup a fanless heatsink with a fan? Hm, but on the other hand it was not that expensive i bet.

Well, i'm not content with the loudness of my system, yet.
I've identified two working sites for my system:

1. Additional 140mm case fan on the top side:
The problem is that i've integrated an additional 140mm on the top of the case and for changing it or even dismount it completely i must remove the Noctua DH14-monster first. I'm fearing to destroy those two screws fitting the heavy weight heatsink to the socket...

2. VGA fans:
see my infos about this issue on the above thread

Due to the fact that i'm now three weeks at home i'll see when i'm in the mood to work at getting my system more silently.
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I received my Gene-z along with other things last week. So far its an awesome little board. So many features. So count me in as an owner.

Edited by Sonolegolas - 8/12/11 at 2:05am
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