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Originally Posted by LA_Kings_Fan;14940780 
I don't see why not ?

Also, your build looks solid, the CM Hyper 212+ is a great cooler, the only thing you might want is different fans for it, the single stock fan it comes with is kind of loud, a pair of 120mm for it can improve it's cooling performance as well as be quieter if you choose the right fans (this was discussed Witch King had a loud Hyper 212+ {Link}).

Thanks, I have 3 Scythe 120mm fans in the list, will these fit the Hyper 212?
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Memory - My point was the difference between 1600Mhz and 2133Mhz is negligible unless you are benching. IMHO you are better off putting the money towards better graphics or SSD's right now. As far as how much, I run 16Gb because I had the extra money and I said why not, but I rarely see more than 4Gb being used, so 8Gb is enough to turn off page file and for 99% of the applications out there, especially gaming. Benchmarks are nice, but the difference between 56Fps and 60Fps is not noticeable to justify the cost difference, again, this is just my humble opinion. For $45 difference you can invest in a better cooler, a better SSD or a better GPU. Just my opinion.

GPU - The reference GTC570's are the ones that run hot. If you want one, get the non reference ones like the MSI Frozen series which offer better cooling, better overclocking and are quieter than the reference models unless you plan on water cooling, then you would want a reference model. Personally, I think the HD6950 is a better buy due to the overclocking potential, the possibility of unlocking to a HD6970 and cooler running, not to mention the ability to run multiple monitors by itself for Eyefinity. Yes, AMD does have it's drawbacks, some complain about screen tearing, vsync issues, etc. But Nvidia has it's own issues as well. It really comes down to what you see as a value, i.e. Physics, multi-monitor setups, etc.
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Will definitely take the Memory into consideration, thanks utnorris!.
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Originally Posted by Charlie117;14941030 
Thanks, I have 3 Scythe 120mm fans in the list, will these fit the Hyper 212?

Again ... don't see why not smile.gif you have 120mm fans and the Hyper 212+ takes 120mm fans ... the wire attachment clips kind of make it universal to install any 120mm's.
   
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Originally Posted by Charlie117;14941015 
I've always been an Nvidia guy, used to have ATI back in the day and had tons of problems with drivers and other things.


What's the difference between the HDD I have vs the Spinpoint?
I mean, is there really a difference in 64mb cache vs 32mb?

I might SLI in the future, I'm just playing it safe smile.gif

In regards to the gpu- to each his own I guess...

For the HDD, the main difference is price. Twice the storage for a cheaper price. You won't notice any difference in performance (unless you step down to a 5400rpm drive).

If you do SLI, you won't be able to fit that wireless adapter.
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Again ... don't see why not smile.gif you have 120mm fans and the Hyper 212+ takes 120mm fans ... the wire attachment clips kind of make it universal to install any 120mm's.

Pssshh, LAKF, I thought you research the crap out of things.
The 212+ has plastic fan clips.rolleyes.gifsmile.gif
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Thanks Ovlazek, I did some quick research and the Spinpoint look like a better deal.
You just saved me 15 bucks smile.gif

About the Wireless Adapter, looks like I'm going to have a hard weekend managing cables through my house, but yeah, that's 30 bucks less ... SSD here I come!. How many GB's would be recommended for the OS?, Windows 7 Ultimate.

+rep to you guys.


BTW do you think a 650w PSU can handle what I've got? Or should I stay with the 750w?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139012

It's a tough decision for me ... Will I SLI in the future? maybe... It depends on the new GPUs coming early next year, I heard they will be more power efficient. So do you think 650 is enough to future proof? Or the 750w is the better option?.
Edited by Charlie117 - 9/14/11 at 9:10pm
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About the Wireless Adapter, looks like I'm going to have a hard weekend managing cables through my house, but yeah, that's 30 bucks less ... SSD here I come!. How many GB's would be recommended for the OS?, Windows 7 Ultimate

I have Windows 7 Ultimate with a 64Gb Crucial M4 drive. Have ALL of the necessary programs on it, including Office and Photoshop. 26 gigabytes left and I'm pretty much done installing stuff.
Games, music, downloads, dvd rips, etc. go on a secondary drive obviously.

EDIT: I found it hard to justify buying a large (and EXPENSIVE) SSD when the technology is still developing and prices are still falling. A year from now, if I find my self cramped for space, I'll invest in a larger drive. It'll be quicker, larger, and cheaper. I don't think it's wise future proofing yourself by buying an SSD with enough space to last you for the next ten years.

I have the registry set to install my User folder onto the secondary drive instead of the boot drive (SSD) per these instructions:

usertohdd.th.jpg
Edited by b0yd07 - 9/14/11 at 10:45pm
post #2748 of 7107
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Originally Posted by Charlie117;14941447 
Thanks Ovlazek, I did some quick research and the Spinpoint look like a better deal.
You just saved me 15 bucks smile.gif

About the Wireless Adapter, looks like I'm going to have a hard weekend managing cables through my house, but yeah, that's 30 bucks less ... SSD here I come!. How many GB's would be recommended for the OS?, Windows 7 Ultimate.

+rep to you guys.


BTW do you think a 650w PSU can handle what I've got? Or should I stay with the 750w?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139012

It's a tough decision for me ... Will I SLI in the future? maybe... It depends on the new GPUs coming early next year, I heard they will be more power efficient. So do you think 650 is enough to future proof? Or the 750w is the better option?.

Wired connections really are the way to go. For an SSD I would say 60GB minimum. I started with a 60GB but moved up to a 120GB as I felt a little bit hand cuffed. But if you truly only want OS and a few apps then a 60GB should do you.

For a PSU, it is hard to say with next gen graphics cards. They are likely to be more efficient but honestly, I would stick with the 750W to be safe. Especially if you do the $20 mail in rebate from Newegg. $130 for the 750W compared to $110 for the 650W. Seems like a better deal.

Edit: It is very important to have a bit of breathing room on an SSD as the performance goes down if it is really full.
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... SSD here I come!. How many GB's would be recommended for the OS?, Windows 7 Ultimate.

IF you buy from NewEgg BE SURE you WANT what you get as far as a SSD go's because you CAN NOT Return it for REFUND, only exchange for replacement. So if you BUY a 64 GB SSD you're STUCK with a 64 GB SSD !

I mention this because that's what happened to me, bought the Crucial M4 64 GB SSD and quickly found I was running out of room with WIN 7 PRO and ONE GAME (CoD4) it was already about 5/8ths full. Granted I didn't know about the Page File and other things you could do to reduce your WIN 7 volume of GB's but ... I ended up Buying a 128 GB Crucial M4 and feel much better that I won't have to worry about space on the SSD drive and I can install Windows, MS Office Pro, and several Games on it now without worry.

That's my 2-cents-1.jpg


PS - Hey b0yd07 thanks for posting that instructions list ... I still have to install my 128 GB SSD and have been trying to compile info from various sources about the best way to handle installing Windows & File Management so as not to fill up the SSD yet not have broken links and File Registry errors with programs being on the Storage HDD yet looking to be installed on the "C/ drive".

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My 2 cents on an SSD is to get as large of a drive you can afford. You do not need to go with the latest generation as just like memory, you will not notice the difference between SATAII and SATAIII or 510Mb reads versus 280Mbs reads unless you are benching. I went from two 80Gb Intel first generation drives in RAID 0 to two Crucial 64Gb drives in RAID0 to finally a single Intel 320 160Gb drive which is on paper way slower than the other two setups. Can I tell the difference in speeds? Nope. My OS still boots just as fast, games and applications launch just as fast and I have TRIM enabled which I couldn't get on the RAID setups. I would grab a second generation Indilinx based SSD that seem to be on sale every other week for about $1 per Gb. This way you have the extra breathing room and you do not have to worry about hacking your OS to make sure you do not run out of room. I put all of my videos and pictures on a RAID 1 setup of two 2Tb mechanical drives and couldn't be happier. My laptop has a first generation 80Gb Intel drive in it and it still feels snappy and it's 4 years old. You can get this drive for example for a $1 per gb after rebate:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227739

This is just an example, but for $120 for a 120Gb drive is pretty good.
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