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You guys need to stop worrying about Gen3. PCIe3 is not going to be leaps and bounds forward and the cards for next generation will only be mildly better. The only time I saw a huge step forward in GPU's was the release of the HD5000 due to features not performance. The fact is, you have to skip a generation to get a decent push forward unless you are a bencher.
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What makes me sad is that this mobo will be outdated down the road. and this awesome club will slowly disappear, one upgrade at a time. I'm kinda bitter Asus just announced Gen3 of this mobo.....
Thanks for the compliments 1ceTr0n & utnorris , BUT 1ceTr0n don't be upset/bitter ... EVERY motherboard becomes outdated at some point, but like Ovlazek said we'd just roll the Gen3 edition into our MaxIVGeneZ group, so we won't die, we'd evolve.

Also ... I'm trying like heck to locate a thread and post I KNOW I read awhile back when ASRock announced it's PCI-e3 board and someone (might have even been Sin0822 or JedixJarf, I think ?) mentioned that underneath our Max4Gene board had similar PCI-e slot architecture to that board and we might just be "Gen3" worthy as well with a BIOS update, it's just that Asus didn't want to say anything yet about it at that time because they couldn't say so w/ 100% certainty. Now things might have changed in the month or more since that time, but at least IF I can find that post it offered some hope that our boards were more future proof than we might have known.

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Thanks for the compliments 1ceTr0n & utnorris , BUT 1ceTr0n don't be upset/bitter ... EVERY motherboard becomes outdated at some point, but like Ovlazek said we'd just roll the Gen3 edition into our MaxIVGeneZ group, so we won't die, we'd evolve.

Also ... I'm trying like heck to locate a thread and post I KNOW I read awhile back when ASRock announced it's PCI-e3 board and someone (might have even been Sin0822 or JedixJarf, I think ?) mentioned that underneath our Max4Gene board had similar PCI-e slot architecture to that board and we might just be "Gen3" worthy as well with a BIOS update, it's just that Asus didn't want to say anything yet about it at that time because they couldn't say so w/ 100% certainty. Now things might have changed in the month or more since that time, but at least IF I can find that post it offered some hope that our boards were more future proof than we might have known.
That would be awesome news if you could find the post.

Although that would also beg the question of why Asus even bothered to release a separate GEN3 version if the current ones could already support PCIe 3.0 with BIOS updates.
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Well I decidedto go over budget and splurge on a D14 since I couldnt find a Venomous BTK, not that I looked hard for one. Now I noticed that I didn't research this properly and didn't know that my dvd burner wont work on this board, ah well!

Anyone knows how to slipstream sp1 on bootable win7 USB stick.

I really want my board now.

Sorry for venting.

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Well I decidedto go over budget and splurge on a D14 since I couldnt find a Venomous BTK, not that I looked hard for one. Now I noticed that I didn't research this properly and didn't know that my dvd burner wont work on this board, ah well!

Anyone knows how to slipstream sp1 on bootable win7 USB stick.

I really want my board now.

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D14 is worth it! It's the best thing short of true water cooling.
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Qualified and True PCIe 3.0 Ready Feature 22nm CPU Native Bios Support.

http://event.asus.com/2011/mb/PCIe3_Ready/
Ok guys, you lot would probably be best to ask.
I'm itching for an upgrade, money is not an option but I don't want to waste it unnecessarily either (300-400 bucks extra isn't really a problem). Both will be cooled with a NH-D14.

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What I'd like is to hit the holy grail of 5GHz(+?) on air 24/7. Mostly I'm interested in generating more FPS in games (Metro 2033, Witcher 2, BC3, Crysis 2) and higher 3D Mark / Unigine scores.
Edited by ReignsOfPower - 10/1/11 at 6:09pm
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5Ghz is going to be dependent on the cpu, not so much the board, but it does help some. As far as x79 versus z68, who knows. It isn't out yet, it's been cut down from what it originally was supposed to be. I doubt there will be a difference worth the price difference. But, if you are a bencher, then you should be looking at a different solution anyways, mATX.
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5Ghz is going to be dependent on the cpu, not so much the board, but it does help some. As far as x79 versus z68, who knows. It isn't out yet, it's been cut down from what it originally was supposed to be. I doubt there will be a difference worth the price difference. But, if you are a bencher, then you should be looking at a different solution anyways, mATX.
Agreed. Historically speaking though, weren't 1366 chips hotter than 1156 chips? I personally never used P55 so I'm not sure. My guess is that a D14 will cool an 1155 better than a 2011 but it really is impossible to say until some hard data comes out.
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What I'd like is to hit the holy grail of 5GHz(+?) on air 24/7. Mostly I'm interested in generating more FPS in games (Metro 2033, Witcher 2, BC3, Crysis 2) and higher 3D Mark / Unigine scores.
WE have at least a handful of people getting 5.0GHz or better, though not sure about 24/7 I wouldn't recommend that anyways if you want your CPU to last more than a year or so But we do have Dozens and Dozens of people on AIR right near that at 4.5 - 4.8 GHz running 24/7 on AIR CPU coolers or the Corsair/Antec self contained liquid type coolers. Like utnorris says it's impossible to know what future tech is going to be able to do, all you can go by is what's out there right now, and right now it's hard to beat our Little BEASTIE of a BOARD ! So ... SCRATCH now and worry about another itch some other day
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Ok guys, you lot would probably be best to ask.
I'm itching for an upgrade, money is not an option but I don't want to waste it unnecessarily either (300-400 bucks extra isn't really a problem). Both will be cooled with a NH-D14.

Upgrade Path 1 - Z68
ASUS Maximus Gene-Z/Gen3 Motherboard
Core i7 2700k QUAD HT CPU
G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-12800CL7D-8GBXH 4x4GB (2 Sets)

Upgrade Path 2 - X79
ASUS Rampage Gene IV (Assumed release upgrade from the Gene III)
Core i7 3930k HEXA HT CPU
G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-12800CL7D-8GBXH 4x4GB (2 Sets)

What I'd like is to hit the holy grail of 5GHz(+?) on air 24/7. Mostly I'm interested in generating more FPS in games (Metro 2033, Witcher 2, BC3, Crysis 2) and higher 3D Mark / Unigine scores.
X79 isn't going to be a huge upgrade over Z68 unless you're going for a very high end rig (e.g. Tri-SLI), so I'd say it's not worth it unless you need to have a hex-core. SB-E is based on the same architecture as SB, so really what you're getting are 2 more cores (if you go for a hex-core).

I'd say 5 GHz on air is doable if you have a good cooler like the Noctua NH-D14 or Thermalright Silver Arrow. I'd recommend a 2600K as those tend to clock a little better than 2500Ks. If you get a good chip, you should be able to hit 5 GHz stable at ~1.45V. If you get an average chip, 5 GHz stable at ~1.5V should be achievable. 1.5V is a high voltage for 24/7 use, but if you have a good motherboard with beefy power circuitry, good cooling, and good airflow, then it should be doable.

My recommendation is to either go for Z68 now and save a little money in the process or wait for Intel's next "tick" in the form of Ivy Bridge.
Edited by 996gt2 - 10/1/11 at 8:54pm
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