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So...365 pages and the best overclocking advice on this board from Overclock.net is "use the presets from the bios"?

What's happened to this place?
Maybe it's because SB has only 2 settings to adjust for low overclocks: core voltage and the multiplier . There aren't any tricks or advice when it's that simple.

As for your ram (which is making you unstable, not your cpu overclock), what model do you have? A lot of pre-Sandy Bridge ram doesn't work very well on P67/Z68 chipsets and you may need to loosen timings and/or raise the voltage.

I had Hypers that did 7-7-7 @ 2000MHz and 8-8-8 @ 2200MHz on X58 but were very unstable at anything over 1866MHz on my Z68 boards.
 
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Woot! Okay, after a lot of researching i've figured out how to flash older roms and I am finally running 0706 . I used AMI's Aptio program and it couldn't be easier. If anyone else is interested, I can write up a little how-to with links (after work tonight).

Anywho, the release notes for 0706 say improved memory and system stability. Gonna do some testing tonight and hopefully hit 2133MHz on my ram .
 
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My question is: does anyone have any experience with overclocking the RAM on this board with an i5 2500k? Am I expecting too much from the memory controller? Should I just stick to lower rated RAM?
I would have started the other way around... Forst you need to use the X.M.P. profile which will set all the timings and voltage according to what the memory maker guarantee to work. It's a bonified SPD if you are familiar with that.

Then I would try OCing the CPU. There is many settings to play with and you should use the link to the OC guide on the RoG forums (see 1st post).
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Of course, the normal tweaking (lower volts never hurt) and OC stability testing still apply.
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Maybe it's because SB has only 2 settings to adjust for low overclocks: core voltage and the multiplier . There aren't any tricks or advice when it's that simple.

As for your ram (which is making you unstable, not your cpu overclock), what model do you have? A lot of pre-Sandy Bridge ram doesn't work very well on P67/Z68 chipsets and you may need to loosen timings and/or raise the voltage.

I had Hypers that did 7-7-7 @ 2000MHz and 8-8-8 @ 2200MHz on X58 but were very unstable at anything over 1866MHz on my Z68 boards.
RAM is in my system. Mushkin 2x4GB 2133. It's brand new.

Sorry if I came across as rude, I was just a bit incredulous. There's got to be more to it than two settings


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I would have started the other way around... Forst you need to use the X.M.P. profile which will set all the timings and voltage according to what the memory maker guarantee to work. It's a bonified SPD if you are familiar with that.

Then I would try OCing the CPU. There is many settings to play with and you should use the link to the OC guide on the RoG forums (see 1st post).
I have been on the ROG forums as well, so I'll keep trying. I've also checked in with Mushkin, though they think I might be using the wrong bios.
I suppose I could try using the XMP and then trying to push the CPU up, but I suspect I'll get the same issues. I can get 3.7 out of the CPU with the RAM at the XMP settings.
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Maybe it's because SB has only 2 settings to adjust for low overclocks: core voltage and the multiplier . There aren't any tricks or advice when it's that simple.


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RAM is in my system. Mushkin 2x4GB 2133. It's brand new.

Sorry if I came across as rude, I was just a bit incredulous. There's got to be more to it than two settings



I have been on the ROG forums as well, so I'll keep trying. I've also checked in with Mushkin, though they think I might be using the wrong bios.
I suppose I could try using the XMP and then trying to push the CPU up, but I suspect I'll get the same issues. I can get 3.7 out of the CPU with the RAM at the XMP settings.
There are of course settings to help you lower your voltage and gain stability.

I am not on my rig right now, but I have been playing with PLL, LLC, VCCSA, and maybe a couple others. I still am not fully stable for the 5ghz or the 5.2 ghz runs I am trying for so I am not the best to be getting advice from yet... (been just playing around so far by seeing if I can drop pll to boot into 5.5 @ a decent voltage as I wouldnt mind dong a SPi run at that as well when my PSU is back in my case)


That said look for the Sandy Stable Club and read up on some of the posts and guides by munaim1. Also there is a bunch of knowledge in that thread and people who would likely help if you ask

edit: cant help with the ram though as I havent even touched mine in bios yet
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Thanks. Time to start reading, I guess, though from what I gather, I'd probably be fine with 1600 on the RAM and just go with it. Too bad I didn't research the RAM as much as I should have, but that's life, I guess.

At this point, it probably won't make much of a difference.
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Post some Pics of your Rig or a CPU-Z validation zlojack, and we'll add you to our club.

And as far as OC'ing ... well if THREE / now TWO {w/ the New Updated BIOS} Steps is ALL you NEED to do to accomplish a 4.6 - 4.8 GHz OC depending on your chip ... then WHY would you want to make it any more difficult than need be ? And if you're an experienced OC'er I gave links and a YouTube vid for those wanting to push the 5.0+ GHz and beyond envelope on the FRONT PAGE ... what more did you want ?

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Dude, this is too easy of a recommendation for me to make... get a Corsair Hydro series cooler for your Arc Mini - I got one for mine (see the system info in my signature)!

I have an H60 set-up in a push-pull exhaust configuration. The H80 was just out when I made my purchase, so I bought mine at a very discounted price. If I was buying today, I'd get an H80 since it is designed with push-pull fans and has a better radiator. If you really want to go all out... get an H100 and set it up to exhaust through the top of the case.

So, I guess, if I had to choose between your two options, I'd get the KUHLER H2O 620

Your color scheme will work with the components you listed too. The Vengeance memory comes in either black or red, the PSU is all black (sheathing, wires and connectors). The Arc Mini also includes some white (fans and slot covers) that will work with the lettering on the Corsair Hydro heatsink lettering. Post pics when you get it built!

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Hi All I have my board coming this week, I need advise on Case + cooler, i want quiet to have chosen the Fractal-Design mini, but not sure which cool to go for

ZALMAN CNPS9900MAX-R 135mm
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I want to keep a red/black colour scheme

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Post some Pics of your Rig or a CPU-Z validation zlojack, and we'll add you to our club.

And as far as OC'ing ... well if THREE / now TWO {w/ the New Updated BIOS} Steps is ALL you NEED to do to accomplish a 4.6 - 4.8 GHz OC depending on your chip ... then WHY would you want to make it any more difficult than need be ? And if you're an experienced OC'er I gave links and a YouTube vid for those wanting to push the 5.0+ GHz and beyond envelope on the FRONT PAGE ... what more did you want ?
Overclocking is never a simple thing for a stable 24/7, regardless of how many fancy features these companies put into their bios and their motherboards. At the end of the day, having control over my settings and dialling my overclock in so it's where I want it to be is why I do this. If two steps worked, then I would be all set, wouldn't I? When something sounds too good to be true, it generally is.

But that's not the way it works. I set my preset to 4.6 and did a stability test and within less than 10 minutes I got an error. I have read other users in this thread with the same problem, so the information is incomplete. Sure, every chip is different and there is no question that they are making things easier for overclocking these days, but having a solid foundation of knowledge is still better than "set it to the presets".

It's great that you're running a "club" for people who own this motherboard, but when someone needs overclocking information or help, the advice is pretty thin. There is not much knowledge being imparted. Maybe the overclocking community has become so watered down in the past year with Sandy Bridge that I'm expecting too much, but it does seem like there is something of a dearth of solid information in a thread that is fast approaching 400 pages.

What more do I want? Intelligent and knowledgeable discussion of how to overclock this motherboard.

Maybe I'm just a crusty old man
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