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Testing 4.8 now. I hope I get to 5.0
Testing with P95 and so far temps are at about 65c.
Its at 1.425v

Yeah Im dialing in 4.8 too, If I can do 5.0ghz with decent voltage I would love to 24/7 that lol. I havent even booted into it yet because I want to get used to intel overclocking and savor the moment (came from amd). Its been almost to easy overclocking this system, but that just tells me Im not going high enough yet thumb.gif
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NO it's not a "FALLACY" ... I think maybe you misinterpreted what ChesterCat was saying ... he said it would be MORE efficient to have the powered venting working in the same path as natural passive air flow, as in heat raises blow heat out TOP being the most Efficient way to vent ... and that's TRUE ! how can it NOT BE ?

What you're saying about the POWER'ed FANS being able to OVER-power the passive heat currents is also true ... but it's not efficient is it ? it means the fans have to work slightly harder even if only marginally, and as you later go on to say about your own set-up a more efficient system is quieter and the fans don't have to WORK as hard ... so you actually contradict your own "Fallacy" statement don't you ? tongue.gif

PS - I'm using basic laws of nature and physics here, and as a roofing contractor that installed lots of attic ventilation systems in my day, it's easy to understand using the path of least resistance provides the most effective and efficient results ... it's why passive ridge ventilation works so much better than power hungry gable end power fans to vent your attic space. wink.gif

I apologize for spelling the word fallacy incorrectly. Spell check didn't catch it and I wasn't in the spelling bee for a reason.
He explains it better than I do \/
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My suggestions are shown in the pic below:-

1) Use a 120mm fan at case top front position for intake.  Reason:- to supply fresh air to the NH-D14 SA

2) For case top rear position, use no fan.  Reason:- you want the hot exhaust from the NH-D14 SA to go horizontally straight out via the case rear fan.  Pulling the exhaust air vertically upward is not efficient and having such a fan will disrupt the horizontal airflow

3) Remove all harddisk holders except one to hold your single harddisk. Reason:- to minimize airflow restriction

4) Keep the harddisk cages to hold the fans.  If you have found other way to hold the fan, then ditch the fan cage

5) Use two 120mm fans to facilitate air movements to the two graphics cards' intake fan.  Notice that there is a 'dead zone' where there is relatively small forward air movement (ie the orange arc in the picture).  Therefore, position the fan (especially the upper one) so that the centre line aligns with the front of the card.  This will maximize the air moving into the gap between the two cards.  This is the best, short of using a funnel.

6) Move the Creative sound card (PCIEx1) from between the two cards to the top PCIEx1 slot of your Asus Sabertooth P67.  Reason:- maximize the gap for air to move into to cool the top card

7) Keep the Apevia fans and no need to change to Ultra Kaze

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and this \/ explains the efficiency statement further. Smaller cases still have this same principle.
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I respect your years of hard work, but I kindly disagree. What happens with a roof is not the same thing that happens with a computer. The airflow is completely different. The computer doesn't produce enough heat for convection to affect airflow in the presence of a stronger current (powered fans). If this was a passively cooled rig, like a slim TV, I would agree with you. I happen to work with tvs, and in that situation it is a perfect example of how convection works. It helps to image the air as a liquid... I'm sure you know the principle how the passive ridge ventilation works. I don't own the system yet, but it's what I plan to do to assist the efficiency of the airflow (faster air, more turbulence) created by the fans.

tl;dr version
It's better to bring in cold air from the top, than to exhaust out the top. Complying with the natural airflow would actually reduce the effectiveness of the fans and heat-sinks.

Not to be contradictory or anything...rolleyes.gif
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It's better to bring in cold air from the top, than to exhaust out the top



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It's better to bring in cold air from the top, than to exhaust out the top

 

 

Here ya go ... Air Flow.jpg ... now we can ALL agree on it ! thumb.gif


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Well, I got it to work. Turned the computer on and set to sli in control panel. Kinda weird that I did not have to install anything. I am kinda surprised it went that easy. Usually stuff for me tends to not work 50% of the time then I end up on here asking questions. So many thanks to everyone here who helped me with this. I ended up using the Slip Stream fans on the cpu cooler forcing the air from the bottom to top. My 2 fans on top of the case are 140's and vent out. I used the Ultra Kaze like in the pics above and left those hdd bays empty. Here are a couple pics of the setup.

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LA Kings, here is my proof pic of the motherboard. I would like one of those club signature things if it's ok.
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Guys, I have a question,
Can i fit 2 EVGA GTX 580's and a X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Pro into those 3 PCIe slots if i watercool my GPUs?
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There's no problem with spacing. You don't want to do that because when you plug in the sound card it will take the PCIe lanes away from the second 580 in SLI. So, not recommended.

The cards will run @x8/x4. The second 580 will like turtle on Xanax.  

Has this ever actually been tested? I want to be able to do it, but that would require a whole new board, ugh.
     
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I'd much rather have a conversation that a meme-off, thank you. And no, I'm not kidding. Don't be ignorant. Here's some reading for you, make sure to read ehumes response(s).
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It's better to bring in cold air from the top, than to exhaust out the top


Here ya go ... 421x521px-LL-5de4f782_AirFlow.jpeg ... now we can ALL agree on it ! thumb.gif

With that Motherboard orientation, and airflow path, then yes, we can both agree wink.gif. It's best to go on a per case basis. If I was getting an air cooler rather than an LCS, I would do some testing for you wink.gif.
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Don't be ignorant.


Wait.......I'm ignorant ? Seriously ?

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It's better to bring in cold air from the top, than to exhaust out the top.


Based on that statement alone, I guess one could legitimatly spew a barrage of derogatory comments.
I'd like to think i'm a better person than that, and will refrain from school-yard banter.
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Wait.......I'm ignorant ? Seriously ?
Based on that statement alone, I guess one could legitimatly spew a barrage of derogatory comments.
I'd like to think i'm a better person than that, and will refrain from school-yard banter.

Right. Because you are right and I am wrong. There is a difference between saying "you're ignorant" and "don't be ignorant", isn't there?

Duh. So stupid of me to spend so much time to create an argument that is then countered with a meme. rolleyes.gif

What you said, in the original post that I quoted that started this is still, and always will be, a fallacy. I don't see how that's resorting to to "school-yard banter".

There are two things that really set me off, spreading the wrong information, and taking a quote out of context.

If your going to be so kind to call me out, at least put forth some effort. I have no problem admitting to being wrong, but you have to prove it to me first.

Bring the barrage. I have a large shield.

edit: I've got it out and I don't want to clutter this kind man's club anymore, I'll create another thread about this is you want to have a public discussion, or you can PM and we can take it private. Keep it Kosher, ya?
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