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Thanks for that info, would they both have the same ability to OC Ivybridge and sandybridge chips?

 

Well yeah ... though the Max V Z77 has the newer Extreme Engine Digi+ II versus the Max IV Z68's Extreme Engine Digi+ ... but what's the Difference ? I dunno headscratch.gif ...

 

BOTH have the same  8 - phase CPU power design + 4 - phase iGPU power design,  2 - phase QPI/DRAM Memory power design ... so hardware wise they are constructed the same, so if one OC's better than the other it will most likely be due to better BIOS / Driver / Software support than the other ... and one would have to imagine that would tend to favor the NEWER Board and Chipset, so the Max V Gene Z77. Bottom line in Computer Tech NEWER is almost ALWAYS BETTER, but you can't really go wrong buying either of these boards, if your budget isn't too tight why not get the newer Max V Gene Z77 ? IT can do everything the Max IV Gene Z68 does and more ... (the EXTRA's I listed above previously)

   
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Question here guys:
Is Virtu MVP okay to use on our z68 mobos? compatible?

 

Short answer NO ...

 

Long answer = http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?16290-Virtu-MVP-on-Z68&highlight=lucid+virtu ... still NO wink.gif

 

 

Quote Raja@ASUS :

Lucid charges a fee for any board the tech is used upon. The board vendor HAS to pay that fee before the tech can be used. The older boards do not have the requisite license and it will not be added to the repertoire of function of older boards by us at this point as far as I am aware.
Lucid are free to market the tech as working any way they like, BUT the board vendor must pay the fee to use the software. So there's nothing underhand going on here at all.
All that list shows is which boards have a license, it is not a list discussing or showing how Virtu interacts with the onboard chipset, CPU, or a discussion of which other chipsets could support the tech if the license were to be paid.

 


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ucode, thanks for explanation in good language.
My English is too tech-biased to be understood by people not familiar with BIOS structure or programming now, but I'm working on it. smile.gif
kevindd992002, ME is now much more then simple remote access. Many features like clockers setup, Turbo-multipliers, memory subtimings and many more are tied to ME nowadays.
As for me, I don't like the whole ME thing on a desktop computer. On a server the things like IP-KVM, IPMI and other remote access capabilities are needed features and the lack of it can't be tolerated, but on a desktop they are simply unneeded.
With that ME firmware came many problems which we never saw before, because it works independent from OS, it has full access to all memory, devices, it reimplements TCP/IP stack and can use your network without any notification, it can read and write from flash chip any second in any region and only few people in Intel know for sure, what it's all about and what is actually going on on your computer during your work with your PC.
More to say, ME-enabled system requires more skill in BIOS programming, because it's now a concurrent IO environment and you must use locks, semaphores, mutexes and critical sections to prevent data corruption and race conditions, because it's not only you who works with flash chip, but there are also ME and GbE firmwares, that can read or write data any second.
As a result, the overall quality of new BIOSes, especially after ME v7 -> ME v8 transition are lower then previous versions and BIOSes for previous platforms. Bugs like this are results of poor BIOS programming in new conditions.
Thanks to all for support and rep, but I hope that this idiotic situation when users like me having to make software to do the hardware manufacturers job ends on Z77 boards lineup.
I have a message to ASUS people: guys, if you read me, please think about paying more to your BIOS developers and testers but making both to work harder too.
You makes one of the best hardware for overclockers, especially on motherboards market, but your you need to test your BIOSes and software tools much better.
Ai Suite is complete crap, All three BIOS updating tools are sort of useless without ability to flash all regions, USB BIOS Flashback needs further development to replace SPI-programmers completely.
Concentrate on making your software better and I assure you - it will worth it. But making a black and red interface for CPU-Z and GPU-Z isn't the right way to achieve perfection.

Thank you very much for the explanation. But it is always recommended to update to the latest ME on my P8Z68-V/GEN3 board, right?
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Short answer NO ...

Long answer = http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?16290-Virtu-MVP-on-Z68&highlight=lucid+virtu ... still NO wink.gif



Although, it is "compatible" with the Z68, right? It's just that it doesn't have any license for it? I think that's what the link says?
Edited by kevindd992002 - 9/14/12 at 9:29pm
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Although, it is "compatible" with the Z68, right? It's just that it doesn't have any license for it? I think that's what the link says?

 

Well in reading the various posts in the ROG Forum Thread I linked, I was under the assumption that Lucid Virtu MVP required interaction with the onboard chipset and BIOS to function, and that ASUS would have to PAY a License FEE to Lucid for this ... therefore they would NOT update older Boards, like our Z68's with a BIOS that would allow Lucid Virtu MVP ... though they have licensed it for the NEWER Max V Gene Z77 board, so that BIOS on the Z77 boards works fine with Lucid Virtu MVP. So I came away with it being NO, you couldn't get it to work ? However maybe I misunderstood it ? and heck I don't really get the basic VIRTU we have on our Gene Z68, and how to get it to work properly either though ... when you READ the description of WHAT it can do and how it should help, well everything sounds like Rainbows and PuppyDogTails ... then you try to activate it and implement it ... and crash bang boom ... what the heck is this junk ? wink.gif

   
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kevindd992002, i think it is better to wait for ASUS to make BIOS update with new ME version, like they made for Z77 series 2 weeks ago, and then flash it with upd_all.bat, because you can be sure, that ASUS have tested BIOS with that ME version and they are compatible with each other. You can update ME before new BIOS version come out, but you take all risks of incompatibility between old BIOS version and new ME version to yourself. It's easy to flash older ME version with upd_me.bat, so you can try ME 8.1, and if any issues you don't like will emerge, revert back to good old ME 8.0. It's up to you, you can wait ot you can experiment now.
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Almost forgot: I have updated FTK to 0.6b version.
- EFI versions of tools are removed due to Intel FPT.efi bug (Error 7 on some boards, leads to BIOS corruption), use DOS or Windows version instead.
- Added ability to transfer SLIC pubkey and marker if your current BIOS have both of them and they are at the end of bios volume containing MSOA module (as it is in OEM-activated systems on P67/Z68/Z77-based boards). This feature needs testing, but it works on all files with factory SLIC i have. Hope that feature will be useful for anybody.
- Solved hangup when individual data module in BIOS was incomplete. That is extremely rare condition, but it's solved for now on.
- Solved some lesser bugs and typos.

UPD: found a bug preventing SLIC transfer from BIOS backup. Will update FTK tomorrow.
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thanks sir LA Kings for the reply...

regarding the Maximus V Gene, i think its Extreme Engine Digi + II is really making a big difference compared to our z68... ive observed that it takes only little amount of vcore while achieving higher OC clocks..
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I have made a new version of FTK toolkit, now upgrading/downgrading/reflashing BIOS/ME/GbE are one click ahead.
There are three new command files, that make things simple:
upd_all.bat makes BIOS backup, transfers individual board data from backup to supplied BIOS file and updates all BIOS regions including BIOS, ME and GbE.
upd_me.bat updates ME region only.
upd_gbe.bat updates GbE region only.
To use this command files under Windows, you need BIOS file of any version downloaded from your board page under asus.com, unpack it from the archive, rename to bios.bin and copy into FTK/Win32 or FTK/Win64 folder, depending on your Windows version.
Now launch the command file as administrator by clicking right mouse button on them and selecting "Run as Administrator".
runupdall.png
Please wait a while, if you see green "FPT Operation Passed" status - it's good. If not - post the error message or screenshot here, I will help to solve the issue.
updallok.png
Power the PC off, remove power completelly for about 30 seconds to reset Management Engine and power the PC back on.
Go to BIOS, look at BIOS version and ME version on Main tab. Both mustn't be N/A.
Now you have updated/reflashed/downgraded BIOS.
Flashing with this method can solve numerous problems such as missing Turbo-ratios in BIOS, ME version N/A, NVRAM issues, bugs with OC profiles and many more.
All above has been tested by forums.overclockers.ru community and works only on ASUS P67/Z68/Z77-based boards.
The latest version of all tools you can find here in my Google-translated forum post.
If you have any questions, meanings, results or something - I'm ready to listen it here.

It works like a charm! I have downgraded my GENE-Z to version 0403 and my system is much more stable at 5Ghz (2600K) now. Thank you dude!
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It works like a charm! I have downgraded my GENE-Z to version 0403 and my system is much more stable at 5Ghz (2600K) now. Thank you dude!

I missed some of the earlier conversation, what bios were you on before the downgrade?
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I missed some of the earlier conversation, what bios were you on before the downgrade?


went from 3402 to 0403

instantly temps of all 4 cores lowered 10-12F
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