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Originally Posted by TeaLeaf;14331177 
I've been building a list on Newegg and i was curious to see what others think. Any advice would be great!

see below ...
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I'd take one high-end video card over two mid-range in SLI.

Also, and please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that hyperthreading (in the i7 CPU's) would be useful when doing 3d work. That might be worth going for.

Yeah, I don't see a reason NOT to spend the extra $100 and upgrade to the i7 2600K unless the budget is tight, but looking at that list doesn't seem to be the case.

Also, I'd suggest getting the #WD1002FAEX WD Cav' Black over the #WD1001FALS, kinda for the same argument. For only $5 more, the WD1002FAEX is a little better HDD; it has Sata III over Sata II, 64MB cache over 32MB ... worth the extra $5 IMO. wink.gif

As for the Video Card ... RussellG, what's your recommendation ? I'm looking to upgrade my Radeon HD 5770 and was debating about doing a similar TWO card GTX 560 Ti or 460, SLI/x-fire setup or buying ONE HD 5970 or GTX 570 something in the $300-$350 +/- range tops, and most likely NOT one of the ASUS 3 slot cards due to future SLI/x-fire upgrade limitations with this board. So I'd be interested to know what others would recommend here too. thumb.gif


P.S. - How do you guys feel about ZOTAC graphics cards ? there seems to be some good deals out there at NewEgg on them, but is it "you get what you pay for" and ZOTAC is crap ?

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Thinking about getting either one of these kits, price not an issue since they're about the same with the discount, which would be the better of the two?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231416

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231461

They look seem to be the same except one has much lower voltage requirements. Would that allow for more OC'ing headroom? Any advice would be highly appreciated.
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Yeah, I don't see a reason NOT to spend the extra $100 and upgrade to the i7 2600K unless the budget is tight, but looking at that list doesn't seem to be the case.

Also, I'd suggest getting the #WD1002FAEX WD Cav' Black over the #WD1001FALS, kinda for the same argument. For only $5 more, the WD1002FAEX is a little better HDD; it has Sata III over Sata II, 64MB cache over 32MB ... worth the extra $5 IMO.

As for the Video Card ... RussellG, what's your recommendation ? I'm looking to upgrade my Radeon HD 5770 and was debating about doing a similar TWO card GTX 560 Ti or 460, SLI/x-fire setup or buying ONE HD 5970 or GTX 570 something in the $300-$350 +/- range tops, and most likely NOT one of the ASUS 3 slot cards due to future SLI/x-fire upgrade limitations with this board. So I'd be interested to know what others would recommend here too.

I've never played around with SLI, but in every online community I've been a part of it's always been commonly held that two mid-range in SLI would perform around the same as one high-end GPU, but one high-end one would draw less power, put out less heat, be more upgradeable, and be far less of a pain in the ass.

I'd check benchies, of course. And there are some great deals on 460's to be had atm, so perhaps that could change things.
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You pretty much read my mind. I thought the exact same priming thing. If it does come back I will tear it all apart I suppose. Sigh...



It is specifically an EK X-Res 100 so it mounts on top of my pump. But it was leaking at the base of the res, where the cylinder meets the rectangular pump top (Acetal meets acetal not acrylic meets acetal). I still have the leak test going and everything seems fine now.
It could be that the bottom O-ring didn't seat correctly when you installed it, but now there is enough pressure forcing it to seal. I would drain it enough to check this personally, even swap the bottom o-ring with the top o-ring if it's possible.


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Hello GENE-Z owners!

I am currently in the process of putting together the components for my new computer and this board has caught my eye!

I've been building a list on Newegg and i was curious to see what others think. Any advice would be great!

I plan to use this computer for both gaming purposes, programming, and maybe a bit of 3D model work.
Go with the 2600K since you are doing 3D modeling and you will be able to take advantage of the extra threads.


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Yeah, I don't see a reason NOT to spend the extra $100 and upgrade to the i7 2600K unless the budget is tight, but looking at that list doesn't seem to be the case.

Also, I'd suggest getting the #WD1002FAEX WD Cav' Black over the #WD1001FALS, kinda for the same argument. For only $5 more, the WD1002FAEX is a little better HDD; it has Sata III over Sata II, 64MB cache over 32MB ... worth the extra $5 IMO.

As for the Video Card ... RussellG, what's your recommendation ? I'm looking to upgrade my Radeon HD 5770 and was debating about doing a similar TWO card GTX 560 Ti or 460, SLI/x-fire setup or buying ONE HD 5970 or GTX 570 something in the $300-$350 +/- range tops, and most likely NOT one of the ASUS 3 slot cards due to future SLI/x-fire upgrade limitations with this board. So I'd be interested to know what others would recommend here too.


P.S. - How do you guys feel about ZOTAC graphics cards ? there seems to be some good deals out there at NewEgg on them, but is it "you get what you pay for" and ZOTAC is crap ?

Not sure about Zotac, but I believe they are a second tier company. GTX460's in SLI will be able to play anything out there currently with a single monitor and they would do "Ok" in Nvidia Surround if you wanted to go that route. HardOCP did a lot of Surround comparisons last year with them, so check those out. Might not be a bad idea to grab GTX560's instead though. The alternative ATI setup would be two HD6870's which would be slightly better than GTX460's and the same as GTX560's and would stay within your $350 or less budget.

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Thinking about getting either one of these kits, price not an issue since they're about the same with the discount, which would be the better of the two?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231416

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231461

They look seem to be the same except one has much lower voltage requirements. Would that allow for more OC'ing headroom? Any advice would be highly appreciated.
I just ordered two kits of the low voltage ones under the assumption they could do more with a voltage bump. Reviews suggest that they will do 1700Mhz quite easily with 1.3v.
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Reposting because somehow I ended up posting on the Maximus owner's board isntead of this one, sorry for the double post.

First off sorry for the lengthy post but I wanted to get as much info in here as possible in case someone could help me.

My problem: I'm unable to get drivers loaded for my network card under Windows Home Server 2011. When the server reboots right after install it says that there is a problem "A network device driver was not found". I check the BIOS and it's enabled so that wasn't the problem. The ethernet cable is plugged in but only flashes orange - while it shows green and flashes orange on my laptop when plugged in.

I tried using the Asus drivers from the included DVD but WHS said it couldn't find any drivers. So I went to the Intel site and downloaded the latest drivers (ProWinx64.exe v16.3 - ProWinx64 because I'm using 64-bit and that one includes Windows Server 2008 R2 which supposedly WHS is based on). After extracting on a different cmoputer and digging thru them it appears I want to use:

e1q62x64.inf from the ..\\PRO1000\\Winx64\\NDIS62 directory.

I figured this because I read on page 39 of this thread that the Asus Gene-Z uses the 82583V chipset. And the e1q62x64.inf file includes that one as shown below. The problem is: ALL of the other names show up, EXCEPT 82583V (even though it shows up in the .inf file). (I'm using the first part of the procedure to update drivers as outlined here: http://www.missingremote.com/guide/i...s-motherboards) - but my driver isn't showing up.

I thought maybe it had already loaded it but when I go to the regular windows drive and search (without switching to the USB card I have downloaded the drivers to) I'm still not seeing the 82583V listed.

Hopefully I'm missing something simple but any help is much appreciated.

Main questions:

Why is the driver not showing up to let me specify which one to choose (but all the others are)?

Is there a way to force the driver install?

Does the flashing orange mean something (I read it means 100mbs vs. 1000mbs which seems odd since it's a gigabit lan)?

Any other suggestions are much appreciated

Below is part of e1q62x64.inf file where it shows all the names.

E10A7NC.DeviceDesc = "Intel(R) 82575EB Gigabit Network Connection"
E10A9NC.DeviceDesc = "Intel(R) 82575EB Gigabit Backplane Connection"
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Yeah, I don't see a reason NOT to spend the extra $100 and upgrade to the i7 2600K unless the budget is tight, but looking at that list doesn't seem to be the case.

Also, I'd suggest getting the #WD1002FAEX WD Cav' Black over the #WD1001FALS, kinda for the same argument. For only $5 more, the WD1002FAEX is a little better HDD; it has Sata III over Sata II, 64MB cache over 32MB ... worth the extra $5 IMO.

As for the Video Card ... RussellG, what's your recommendation ? I'm looking to upgrade my Radeon HD 5770 and was debating about doing a similar TWO card GTX 560 Ti or 460, SLI/x-fire setup or buying ONE HD 5970 or GTX 570 something in the $300-$350 +/- range tops, and most likely NOT one of the ASUS 3 slot cards due to future SLI/x-fire upgrade limitations with this board. So I'd be interested to know what others would recommend here too.


P.S. - How do you guys feel about ZOTAC graphics cards ? there seems to be some good deals out there at NewEgg on them, but is it "you get what you pay for" and ZOTAC is crap ?
Thanks for the responses guys!
The i7 thing i took into mind, although I held back because I was thinking of saving the extra cash for when Ivy Bridge comes out.

(Switches Hard drive) Nice catch man

For the video card bit, I've heard a lot more of people mentioning that their sli's do a lot more then a bunch of higher cards. In a way they explain it like cpu cores. Like the lowest dual core processors were much better then the expensive Pentium 4s :/.
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I've never played around with SLI, but in every online community I've been a part of it's always been commonly held that two mid-range in SLI would perform around the same as one high-end GPU, but one high-end one would draw less power, put out less heat, be more upgradeable, and be far less of a pain in the ass.

I'd check benchies, of course. And there are some great deals on 460's to be had atm, so perhaps that could change things.
As long as one doesn't mind the hassle of having two cards (I personally use two 570's regularly and it is seriously no hassle) two 560ti will blow the crap out of something like a 580. A 580 is not worth the money IMO. I have two cards that saved me about $150 each compared to 580's and will easily perform in everything I throw at them. If a person buys a 580 with future plans on going sli, they are talking about serious cash investment. By the time they save for another, a much better card will be out with much better dual gpu drivers at a lower cost (not to mention high end cards like that don't really come down in price at all, usually one would think that they do when the next gen comes out, but they don't. Everyone is looking to crossfire or sli at that time so there is no point to bring the price down). Unless a person is doing 5760x1080, you don't need dual 580's. Dual GTX560Ti will be the best option. Period. (Not being a fanboy saying go Nvidia, AMD are awesome too!)
Also, @TeaLeaf- Go with the Crucial M4. It costs less and has better performance.

@LAKF, I would avoid the 5970 (it has pretty bad drivers not to mention an inflated price at this point in time) and go with something like a 6950TFIII or something. And that is only if you upgrade your monitor first.

Edit: @LAKF, I am assuming you meant the 5870 as it is more in your price range? It is last generations equivalent to the 6970. The 5970 is a dual gpu like the 6990 and is much more than $350. Zotac is fine as long as you are getting reference cards. All reference cards are pretty much the same except for XFX which always keeps the looks of reference but changes things and cheaps out on components. Warranty and customer service is the only thing to look at when considering reference cards as far as I am concerned.
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This will probably sound stupid, foolish, idiotic or all of the above ... however, I'm not happy with my install.

Not the components, I think I've got all the parts wired correctly and everything works in that regard, so I was surprised it went that easy for my first 'build' ever. This thread is great and has been very helpful and informative , and I like all the parts I picked and/or had mostly. The Asus Maximus IV Gene-Z68 motherboard and Intel i7 2600K are made for each other it would seem. 16 GB of Vengeance RAM should be more than I ever need, and the Noctua NH-U9B CPU cooler looks like a little champ atop it all.

My problem and concern, is how it's come together once I began installing all the software and utilities. If you've read through this thread at all, you know a lot of us thought that this Lucid Virtu Technology would be something to improve system resources, heat, and wear & tear on the discrete GPU card ... and likewise that this Intel Smart Response Technology cache idea would be so wonderful to utilize. But a few of you have pointed out neither are really ready for to be a prime-time player just yet.

Well I installed everything on the HDD first and tried to get SRT working, but then people said forget it, so now I tried installing Win7 on the SSD and a few things seem to be in conflict being on both the SSD and the HDD ... so now about a week later after getting my system to boot, yeah I can get my system to work, but I don't think it "WORKS" if that makes sense to anyone ... and I think I could use some basic computer/software tech 101 advice from anyone that cares to give it, because at this point I'm kind of thinking I need to wipe my HDD and SSD clean and start over.

Here's what I've got to work with ;

- 1 Sata III 64 GB SSD attached to a RED sata III port on the Max4GeneZ
- 1 Sata III 1 TB HDD attached to a RED sata III port on the Max4GeneZ
- 1 Sata Optical Drive attached to a GRAY sata II port on the Max4GeneZ

- OEM copy of MS Windows 7 Professional 64 bit SP1
- The ASUS Support DVD
- MS Office Pro 2010
- Norton 360 (
though the Kaspersky AV that came w/ Asus is fine too)
- Games (
COD4, CoH, AoE, soon BF3, etc.)

This RIG is mostly to FTW in online gaming, light duty home business Apps, surfing the Web, playing online Poker {
oh that got F'd, nevermind} and like natured stuff, nothing overly hardcore or intensive other than wanting the best FPS during online gaming I guess. {Yes I know I still need to upgrade my graphics card to accomplish this, but NO Ovlazek, I don't see upgrading the monitor as an option YET , I do have TWO of those HP w2207h's and could run them both}

SO ... bottom line, HOW would YOU set it up ? and can you walk me through it.
I've never had a system with multiple HDD/SSD drives before, and always usually just let windows and programs install themselves where and how they liked by default, and then saved files I'd create to my file folder area, obviously I need to plan this out and get better control of that to have a better/faster functioning system.

Anyone care to help a noob, yet again/more ?

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I would make the 64Gb drive your OS drive and use the 1Tb drive for storage and games. In other words, install the OS on the 64Gb and then install games on the 1TB drive. That should give you the best performance. If you have a favorite game you are always playing then put it on the SSD also, just try to keep about 20% free for TRIM to work the best. As far as the GPU goes, i wouldn't worry about wear and tear on it. You will probably, not guaranteed, probably upgrade it before having it break.
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@LAKF- The SSD definitely has to be plugged into a sataIII port. Even though the hard drive is sataIII it doesn't matter which port it is plugged into as it doesn't even come close to saturating sataII unless you RAID a couple of them (even then it isn't really necessary). I know exactly the kind of problems you are having as I have had them before myself. I have done reinstalls that seem to clear up issues. I would just install the OS on the ssd (NOT using it as cache) then install anything you use daily on it as well (browser, office, and vital games). If you use steam there is a program called steam mover that lets you install steam on your C: drive and pick and choose where you want to install specific games, but on a 64GB it is probably best to install steam on your E: drive.

I'll probably think of more things and edit this post a lot just like my last one.

Ninja'd but yeah. What UTNorris said.
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