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i'm ignoring every mention of alternative energy until it's actually deployed in a real world scenario.
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I really hope this works, the world is going to hell and the economy is only benefiting the top1% of america. I hope we can work towards a more equal society or at least a higher standard of living for all people, maybe this will be the start of that reality?
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I'm ignoring every mention of alternative energy until it's actually deployed in a real world scenario.
The problem is people who profit off oil are gonna try their damnest to prevent it.
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post #24 of 87
I clicked expecting AMD fusion.

I leave dissapointed.
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post #25 of 87
ITER and Lawrence Livermore have been working on fusion for awhile now. Hopefully it will be stable enough to replace fission plants in 10-15 years.
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I don't see what you're getting excited about here.

I think the future of fusion power lies in Europe's ITER and DEMO reactors, with DEMO planned to achieve commercially viable net output in ~ 2033. And that's only if ITER reaches its expected targets.

Although the NIF in the US has been better than previous ICF reactors, I share the view of the majority of the scientific community and don't believe that ICF fusion is the way to go, as the tokamak reactors have seen much more success. This IEC reactor being built mentioned in the article I don't think has nearly the promise of the tokamaks, as it doesn't have the proven track record of increasing gains that tokamaks do (with a defined future plan for progress).

I definitely wouldn't say that (due to this planned reactor) the end to fossil fuels is in sight...

Of course, possible alternative approaches are always welcomed, however until it is proved that alternatives such as cold fusion are outlined as even theoretically attainable with current or near future technology, I will keep watching magnetic confinement technologies.
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^Natural gas based, not oil based. Most of the major plastic types are derived from short chain hydrocarbons; methane, ethane, propane, etc. Polyethylene, polypropylene, polyvinyl chloride, etc, are all derived from natural gas.


Don't conflate the terms "hydrocarbon", "fossil fuel", "oil", and "natural gas". They all mean very specific things and if you mix them up you sound like a tard.
There are many plastics that are used in every day products that are petrol based. There are lots of different methods to create plastics and a lot of companies/research firms are looking bioplastics. Some forms are just too expensive at present.

It's not just plastics though - there are a lot of applications that oil gets refined to for creating things. Pharma is a big one out there also.
    
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FYI, with basic drilling only ~30% of oil in a well is accessible. With current tech such as steerable tools that goes up to about 60%. That still leaves 40% of the oil in every oil well that has ever been drilled... We just stop drilling when it costs too much to get it out the ground compared to what it can be sold for. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_well#Abandonment)

Now if oil prices go up significantly, then that well will eventually become profitable again.
    
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post #29 of 87
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True, but then we still have the problem of CO2 emissions. Then again, with coal, oil, and natural gas power plants gone, we cutout more than 50% of emissions. So, baby steps.
While a lot of people share this misconception, growing biofuels and then burning them does not result in a net increase in atmospheric CO2, since the carbon in these fuels is taken from the atmosphere. It's only when we burn hydrocarbons from non-renewable sources that it's an issue. For example, burning wood and oil adds CO2 to the atmosphere faster than photosynthesis removes it, whereas burning a biofuel can at most reach the same level as that being taken from the atmosphere.

However, you do have a good point if you consider the fact that the land used to grow crops would usually have removed more CO2 than it does once used for biofuel.
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Not a reputable news source.
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